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« on: January 13, 2010, 12:40:45 PM »

Who would be his best potential VP pick?
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2010, 12:45:09 PM »

David Duke.
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2010, 12:45:12 PM »
« Edited: January 13, 2010, 12:47:29 PM by Libertas »

Rand Paul

Peter Schiff

Maybe Marco Rubio
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2010, 12:49:10 PM »

Will any of those you named, Libertas, have the proper credibility?

I don't think a 2-year Senator would be seen as ready for the VP slot. Look what happened to the two-year Governor.

Also, how would the ticket reach out to more socially conservative Republicans?
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2010, 12:58:45 PM »

Will any of those you named, Libertas, have the proper credibility?

I don't think a 2-year Senator would be seen as ready for the VP slot. Look what happened to the two-year Governor.

Also, how would the ticket reach out to more socially conservative Republicans?


Really now?
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2010, 01:05:46 PM »

Will any of those you named, Libertas, have the proper credibility?

I don't think a 2-year Senator would be seen as ready for the VP slot. Look what happened to the two-year Governor.

Also, how would the ticket reach out to more socially conservative Republicans?

Well Barack Obama did win the top job and he only really did his job as as senator for less than two years before he started campaigning for the presidency...


If Rand Paul can win a Senate race in Kentucky, I think he would be conservative enough to shore up socially conservative votes. Even moreso with Rubio after taking down Crist.

There's also Judge Andrew Napolitano.


Is there anyone out there with more experience yet who still holds at least somewhat libertarian values?
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2010, 01:06:44 PM »

Nixon had also served in the House of Representatives. Rand Paul and Peter Schiff have no prior political experience.

Although I must say that the Eisenhower ticket was pretty lacking in political experience and managed to do quite well, so who knows.

Problem is that Johnson isn't a popular and respected war hero.
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2010, 01:07:31 PM »

What about Ron Paul? He'll be old but he did serve in the military...
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2010, 01:15:24 PM »

Will any of those you named, Libertas, have the proper credibility?

I don't think a 2-year Senator would be seen as ready for the VP slot. Look what happened to the two-year Governor.

Also, how would the ticket reach out to more socially conservative Republicans?

Well Barack Obama did win the top job and he only really did his job as as senator for less than two years before he started campaigning for the presidency...


If Rand Paul can win a Senate race in Kentucky, I think he would be conservative enough to shore up socially conservative votes. Even moreso with Rubio after taking down Crist.

There's also Judge Andrew Napolitano.


Is there anyone out there with more experience yet who still holds at least somewhat libertarian values?

What about, say, Jeff Flake?
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2010, 01:16:29 PM »

Will any of those you named, Libertas, have the proper credibility?

I don't think a 2-year Senator would be seen as ready for the VP slot. Look what happened to the two-year Governor.

Also, how would the ticket reach out to more socially conservative Republicans?

Well Barack Obama did win the top job and he only really did his job as as senator for less than two years before he started campaigning for the presidency...


If Rand Paul can win a Senate race in Kentucky, I think he would be conservative enough to shore up socially conservative votes. Even moreso with Rubio after taking down Crist.

There's also Judge Andrew Napolitano.


Is there anyone out there with more experience yet who still holds at least somewhat libertarian values?

What about, say, Jeff Flake?

I guess he might be alright, but he's only a rep too, right?
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2010, 01:20:54 PM »

Will any of those you named, Libertas, have the proper credibility?

I don't think a 2-year Senator would be seen as ready for the VP slot. Look what happened to the two-year Governor.

Also, how would the ticket reach out to more socially conservative Republicans?

Well Barack Obama did win the top job and he only really did his job as as senator for less than two years before he started campaigning for the presidency...


If Rand Paul can win a Senate race in Kentucky, I think he would be conservative enough to shore up socially conservative votes. Even moreso with Rubio after taking down Crist.

There's also Judge Andrew Napolitano.


Is there anyone out there with more experience yet who still holds at least somewhat libertarian values?

What about, say, Jeff Flake?

I guess he might be alright, but he's only a rep too, right?

Yes but he got elected in 2000, so he's been around a while.
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2010, 01:57:36 PM »


Rand Paul, a southerner with a lot of paleo-conservative supporters, would help attract cultural conservatives to the ticket.  There would probably still be some anti-drug peeps who would stay home or defect to the Democrats, but they were closet-democrats all along anyways. 
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2010, 01:59:13 PM »


Rand Paul, a southerner with a lot of paleo-conservative supporters, would help attract cultural conservatives to the ticket.  There would probably still be some anti-drug peeps who would stay home or defect to the Democrats, but they were closet-democrats all along anyways. 

Why would anti-drug people go to Barack Obama? He isn't exactly Zell Miller.
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2010, 02:13:33 PM »

Luis Fortuņo (Governor of Puerto Rico).
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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2010, 02:48:39 PM »


Rand Paul, a southerner with a lot of paleo-conservative supporters, would help attract cultural conservatives to the ticket.  There would probably still be some anti-drug peeps who would stay home or defect to the Democrats, but they were closet-democrats all along anyways. 

Why would anti-drug people go to Barack Obama? He isn't exactly Zell Miller.

Trust me, I personally know alot of "republicans" who, when it all boils down, vote Republican purely for social issues (drugs, abortion, gays, etc).  Combine a blistering Democratic machine assault on Johnson's drug/crime policies with Barack Obama making a sista soulja statement and some of them would indeed cross over.
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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2010, 03:14:07 PM »
« Edited: January 13, 2010, 03:16:58 PM by freiheit »

He might want to emphasize the executive experience of the ticket by picking a big entrepreneur or company executive and not picking a politician VP at all.  That would also emphasize the "outsider" thing Gary Johnson has going for him.  Perhaps a libertarian-conservative business exec like Alan Mulally (CEO of Ford),  Lewis Lehrman (former President of Riteaid), John Mackey (CEO of Whole Foods), or even Wayne Allyn Root.

But, if he decides to go the politician route, there's always:

Rep. Ron Paul
Rep. Walter B. Jones
Rep. Jeff Flake
Possibly Sen. Rand Paul
Possibly Sen. Peter Schiff
or even Fmr. Adm. William Fallon (to help pull anti-war voters away from Obama-Biden)
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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2010, 04:35:21 PM »

" If Gary Johnson were to win the nomination..."


Well...

If my aunt had balls, then she'd be my uncle. And I place the chances of either happening at about the same.
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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2010, 04:36:53 PM »

" If Gary Johnson were to win the nomination..."


Well...

If my aunt had balls, then she'd be my uncle. And I place the chances of either happening at about the same.

Nobody asked for this irrelevant input.
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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2010, 04:37:38 PM »

LMAO, I can visualize all the veganazis protesting in the parking lots of whole foods if Mackey was the running-mate.
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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2010, 04:47:07 PM »

" If Gary Johnson were to win the nomination..."


Well...

If my aunt had balls, then she'd be my uncle. And I place the chances of either happening at about the same.

Nobody asked for this irrelevant input.

Since when is impossibility irrelevant?  Hey, there are some things I really admire about Johnson.  Not sure I'd cross over but if he's pro-choice, pro-legalization, pro-conservation and more likely to be a watchdog on the military-industrial complex, he'd probably be a lot closer to getting MY vote than any Republican in a long time.

Ah, but here's the problem.  It's a GOP primary.  He's not going to last much past Iowa without the blessing of the Talibagelicals.  And my guess is, Johnson has too much going for him to want it or accept it.  Ergo, no nomination.
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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2010, 04:49:59 PM »

Rand Paul

Peter Schiff

Maybe Marco Rubio

As much as I like Peter Schiff, he's not really experienced enough to be a VP (at least not in the media's eyes), and neither are Rand Paul or Marco Rubio.

Besides, I think he'd go for somebody a little less libertarian leaning than those 3.
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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2010, 04:50:28 PM »

" If Gary Johnson were to win the nomination..."


Well...

If my aunt had balls, then she'd be my uncle. And I place the chances of either happening at about the same.

LOL, even if I disagree.
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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2010, 05:14:22 PM »

" If Gary Johnson were to win the nomination..."


Well...

If my aunt had balls, then she'd be my uncle. And I place the chances of either happening at about the same.

LOL, even if I disagree.

Well, I think we CAN agree that Johnson would be a welcome change in the GOP.  I just don't see how that happens in a party so in the thrall of what you delightfully (and aptly) call "moralf****try".

I'd more more apt to think Johnson would look at the GOP...say, "no thanks"...and run an Independent campaign like Perot or Anderson.  OTOH, he may WANT to stay within the party and try to gain some traction for his ideology.  I'm not even saying that couldn't happen.  Eventually.  But not in 2012. This is the party of Sessions, DeMint, Coburn, Inhofe and Bachmann....not the party of Johnson or even Paul.  I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea to tilt at windmills once in awhile.  You have to do what you think is right.

But will he win the nomination?  No.  Not without a massive abandonment of the positions he has historically held.
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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2010, 06:19:16 PM »

Will any of those you named, Libertas, have the proper credibility?

I don't think a 2-year Senator would be seen as ready for the VP slot. Look what happened to the two-year Governor.

Also, how would the ticket reach out to more socially conservative Republicans?


Really now?

To be fair, the Vice Presidency was irrelevant back then. Believe me; I've done a lot of research on the Vice Presidency.
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