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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2009, 04:16:18 PM »
Van Buren wins in 1848:


Weaver wins in 1892.
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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2009, 04:41:25 PM »
« Edited: March 01, 2009, 05:25:40 PM by Antonio V »
Weaver campaigns countrywide, particularly among poorest people. West votes for him with a colossal margin, and he manages to win some traditional republican states in Midwest and democratic ones in the Deep South. Actually, his victory at the electoral college is very close compared with his popular vote score.



Weaver : 48%, 225 E.V.
Cleveland : 27%, 131 E.V.
Harrison : 22%, 88 E.V.

What would a Clay victory in 1824 look like ( you can change results in states who hadn't popular vote ) ?
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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2009, 05:32:59 PM »
Quote from: Antonio V on March 01, 2009, 04:41:25 PM
What would a Clay victory in 1824 look like ( you can change results in states who hadn't popular vote ) ?

The thought of doing this makes me want to cry.
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« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2009, 05:50:15 PM »
There is not an electoral college calculator for the 1824 election Antonio, so I leave your scenario map to Senator elect. So ill throw out the next scenario and bring back to the 20th Century...What would a Perot victory in '96 look like?
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« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2009, 03:11:26 AM »
« Edited: March 02, 2009, 01:06:36 PM by Antonio V »
Sorry, I didn't thought about that.

So, here is the 96' Perot victory :

Surprisingly close election : Perot keeps his tradiditonal strength in the West and independent states like Maine, and takes many republican votes. In fact, due to Doles' inefficient campaign, the election becomes a Clinton/Perot clash. Perot wins closely in populated States, helped by strong anti-incumbent feelings.



Perot : 37%, 272
Clinton : 35%, 230
Dole : 26%, 36

What would a 1924 La Follette victory look like ?
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« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2009, 01:48:08 PM »
« Edited: March 02, 2009, 01:51:36 PM by unempprof »

La Follette is green: 272
Coolidge blue: 123
Smith red: 136


Nader wins in 2008.
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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2009, 01:51:21 PM »
Quote from: unempprof on March 02, 2009, 01:48:08 PM

La Follette is green
Coolidge blue
Smith red


Nader wins in 2008.

What is that?? Too good for the electoral college calculator?
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« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2009, 01:52:15 PM »
Quote from: Senator-elect Realisticidealist on March 02, 2009, 01:51:21 PM
Quote from: unempprof on March 02, 2009, 01:48:08 PM

La Follette is green
Coolidge blue
Smith red


Nader wins in 2008.

What is that?? Too good for the electoral college calculator?

Shut up and stay on topic...
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« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2009, 02:08:37 PM »
« Edited: March 02, 2009, 02:58:57 PM by Antonio V »
What scenario do you propose ?

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« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2009, 09:33:25 PM »
A Glitch in the optical scan machines causes Obama votes to be counted for Nader.



Millard Fillmore wins in 1856
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« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2009, 09:37:23 PM »
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A Glitch in the optical scan machines causes Obama votes to be counted for Nader.



Millard Fillmore wins in 1856

Nader would have won Missouri, too. Wink
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« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2009, 09:51:14 PM »
Millard Fillmore wins in 1856:


Fillmore: 150 EV
Fremont: 79 EV
Buchanan: 67 EV

What would Henry Wallace winning in 1948 look like (with Thurmond)?
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« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2009, 11:05:20 PM »
A Wallace victory in '48: Wallace runs strong in the midwest and in urban areas and succeeds the 5 million votes that many pundits predicted that he could satrap away from Truman. Wallace leaves the South for Truman and Thurmond to duke it out, focusing to campaign in traditionally Republican states running as the experienced candidate against the young Dewey. He also refuses entry of the communists into his new Progressive party; allowing him to recieve the endorsements of the AL(American Labor) and the ADA(Americans for Democratic Action). He pulls off a suprise upset victory over the President.



Henry Wallace/Glen Taylor: 283 Electoral Votes
Harry Truman/Alben Barkley: 168 Electoral Votes
Thomas Dewey/Earl Warren: 42 Electoral Votes
J. Strom Thurmond/Fielding Wright: 38 Electoral Votes

Ok...Lets see what a McGovern Victory in '72 looks like
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« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2009, 11:12:22 PM »


Al Smith in 1928.
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« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2009, 11:37:30 PM »
Deeds, Senator-elect Realisticidealist did the Al Smith Scenario for me at the bottom of the 1st page. Nice map though.

What would a Debs victory in 1920 look like?
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« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2009, 01:22:49 PM »
« Edited: March 03, 2009, 01:42:13 PM by Antonio V »
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LOL That would be a funny situation...



Surprising Debs landslide, taking many Harding votes. Actually, Cox gains some Electoral Votes, due to Harding's poor performance.

Debs : 51%, 314 E.V.
Cox : 29%, 174 E.V.
Harding : 18%, 43 E.V.

What would a 1912 Taft victory look like ?
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« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2009, 04:59:30 PM »
Taft Victory in 1912...Taft is able to showcase Teddy as a radical and Wilson as a racist. He barely pulls it off, focusing on traditional Republican States and in the upper south...It is still ridicuously close



William Taft/Nicholas Butler: 278 Electoral Votes
Woodrow Wilson/Thomas Marshall: 178 Electoral Votes
Theodore Roosevelt/Hiram Johnson: 75 Electoral Votes

Hmm...What would a William Jennings Bryan victory in 1908 look like?
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« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2009, 06:17:38 PM »
A bitter guerrilla war in the Phillipines combined with a financial boondoggle in the Panama Canal project and general economic malaise allows for a narrow Bryan victory.



How about Ron Paul '88?
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« Reply #43 on: March 05, 2009, 02:07:58 AM »
Ok...That scenario is really hard JW But I think I have pulled it off...Ron Paul in the '88 campaign is seen as the true successor to Ronald Reagan and his more libertarian minded supporters who agreed with his positions on gun rights, fiscal conservatism, homeschooling, and abortion, and won approval from many who thought the federal government was misdirected. Dukakis is still Dukais and still picks up some of the Northeastern vote, but gaffes' like the tank, poor debate performance and other's really hurt his canidacy. Bush is proved to have had some direct involvement in Iran Contra, causing his polling to plummet. Paul after reciveng Pat Robertson's endorsement; emerges the victor in a crazy '88 scenario.



Ron Paul/Andre Marrou: 273 Electoral Votes
George H.W. Bush/J. Danforth Quayle: 187 Electoral Votes
Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen: 78 Electoral Votes

Ok...What would a William Lemke victory in 1936 look like?
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« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2009, 06:51:34 AM »
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Lemke : 293
Roosevelt : 235
Landon : 3

What would a 1932 Thomas victory look like ?
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« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2009, 04:56:24 PM »


The Depression would bring in Norman Thomas as the 32nd President. The 1932 election would be hard fought as Roosevelt and Thomas were fighting to bring there "New Deal" and the "Greater Society" programs to Washington as vote splitting gave the unpopular Hoover several suprise wins but the battle for the presidency would be mainly between Roosevelt and Thomas. The election would come down to little Rhode Island, which went to Thomas after both Hoover and Roosevelt came in a strong third and second place finishes.

Thomas: 273 EV
Roosevelt: 216 EV
Hoover: 42 EV

Eugene McCarthy victory in 1976
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« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2009, 02:36:15 AM »
Hmmm...Clean for Gene in '76. First of all he has to settle on an actual Vice Presidential choice, In my scenario he chooses the popular Congresswoman Shirley Chisholm as his running mate. Her Unbought and Unbossed personality makes a stark contrast against the dull and dry Senator Bob Dole and Senator Walter Mondale. Possibly, in one of the assasination attempt's Ford is crippled adding to the stigma of him being unsuitable for the Presidency. However with the crippled President; Reagan ultimatley decides against running against Ford. The Democratic race although a little bit more competitve ITTL's still ends up with a Carter/Mondale ticket.

Carter still does the playboy interview, and makes several other gaffe's to significantly weaken his stance on the polls. McCarthy's decision to annouce his cabinet picks during the campaign goes well, in Post-Vietnam/Watergate America. He is seen as the "authentic" canidate who does well in the Pacific West, the midwest and the Industrial belt. He ends up costing Ford more votes than he does Carter.

In his Inagural address he says "I believe that the presidency belongs to the country and to the people more than does any other political office. That a President must understand that the potential for leadership in a free country exists in every citizen. Sensing the will of the people, he must be prepared to move out ahead so that the people can follow, giving direction to the country and guiding it, largely by way of setting people free."



Eugene McCarthy/Shirley Chisholm: 288 Electoral Votes
Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale: 185 Electoral Votes
Gerald Ford/Robert Dole: 65 Electoral Votes

Ok...What Would a James Weaver victory in 1880 look like?
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« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2009, 12:31:40 PM »
Hmm...I'd say major financial crash, particularly devastating to farmers combined with a major scandal in the Hayes administration.



James Weaver/Benjamin Chambers 203
Winfield Hancock/William English 104
James Garfield/Chester A. Arthur 60

Let's see Strom Thurmond in 1948.
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« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2009, 05:51:37 PM »


What about James Weaver win in 1892
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« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2009, 06:02:04 PM »


Robert LaFollette in 1924.
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