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[Bo]

The state of Ohio was called as it should have been. The other networks refused to announce it in order to cause Bush to give his acceptance speech the next day at 3p.m. while everyone was at work instead of at the end of the election night or just before midnight. The mainstream media hates the GOP and MSNBC made an executive decision to move to the left about a year later. The candidates actually get the results before the news networks anyways so it's not like Bush or Kerry were waiting in suspense. Kerry didn't want to give Bush the full feeling of being reelected either and he was too much of a wimp to come out and admit defeat.

Then why did some networks call NV (ABC, CNN), but not OH?  After 2000, Kerry didn't want to concede so fast.  In the end, a reversal in OH would have put Kerry over the top. 

Bush didn't need Nevada to win and could've still won without it. Everything hinged on Ohio. Kerry maybe a dork, but he's not stupid and knows damn well Gore wasn't as close as perceived in FL and that there wasn't a single real problem with counting votes in 2000. Sure, he played that card to gain sympathy from moderates and the press, but the fact of the matter is Kerry knew 2000 wasn't as close as the democrats want you to believe. From my recollection, NV was called by everyone and Ohio was called by anyone who mattered.

Gore won the popular vote in 2000...The people who wanted Albert Gore to be President outnumbered those who wanted George Bush to be President.

Al Gore "lost" by 537 votes.  I find it hard to believe that 537 Jewish retirees in West Palm Beach would vote for an anti-semite like Pat Buchanan instead of Gore.

The people who did not want Gore to be President outnumbered those who wanted Gore to be President, though. And besides, the PV is irrelevant--only the EV counts and Gore knew that. Right before the election, where was speculation Bush might win the PV and Gore might win the EV, and Gore's advisors indicated that Gore would be OK with such an outcome. Also, I think I read somewhere that Pat Buchanan had a cousin who lived in Palm Beach County who ran a very active grassroots campaign for him in that county, so that might at least partially explain why Pat Buchanan won a dispropotionally high % in that county. I don't think ballot design alone was the reason.

[Bo]

The state of Ohio was called as it should have been. The other networks refused to announce it in order to cause Bush to give his acceptance speech the next day at 3p.m. while everyone was at work instead of at the end of the election night or just before midnight. The mainstream media hates the GOP and MSNBC made an executive decision to move to the left about a year later. The candidates actually get the results before the news networks anyways so it's not like Bush or Kerry were waiting in suspense. Kerry didn't want to give Bush the full feeling of being reelected either and he was too much of a wimp to come out and admit defeat.

Then why did some networks call NV (ABC, CNN), but not OH?  After 2000, Kerry didn't want to concede so fast.  In the end, a reversal in OH would have put Kerry over the top. 

Bush didn't need Nevada to win and could've still won without it. Everything hinged on Ohio. Kerry maybe a dork, but he's not stupid and knows damn well Gore wasn't as close as perceived in FL and that there wasn't a single real problem with counting votes in 2000. Sure, he played that card to gain sympathy from moderates and the press, but the fact of the matter is Kerry knew 2000 wasn't as close as the democrats want you to believe. From my recollection, NV was called by everyone and Ohio was called by anyone who mattered.

Gore won the popular vote in 2000...The people who wanted Albert Gore to be President outnumbered those who wanted George Bush to be President.

Al Gore "lost" by 537 votes.  I find it hard to believe that 537 Jewish retirees in West Palm Beach would vote for an anti-semite like Pat Buchanan instead of Gore.

You know everything don't you LMAO! You have no proof or basis to call Pat Buchanan an anti-semite. There were thousands of people who may have meant to vote for Gore but were "mislead" by the ballots, but if that's the case then they shouldn't be voting anyway. If anything, they should have ridden the bus with Jesse Jackson that day in Philadelphia so they could have been supervised. Bush won by far more than 537 votes in FL and if you believe Gore won the PV then know that in the western panhandle of FL there were more than enough votes to give Bush the PV nationally but their polls closed over confusion caused by the liberal media. Stop drinking the cool aid. Stop quoting your liberal friends. This is America where elections are decided by a majority of people in a majority of states rather than majority rules. This gives people in your state a greater say than people in Wyoming.

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Bush didn't get a majority of the vote in Florida in 2000.

True, but neither did Gore.

[Bo]

And your one of them, you have no clue about whats going on.

I am more informed than anyone who watches anything else. Besides cable news is outdated. In today's times text updates and the internet are more efficient.

For some reason, it's very hard to believe that.

[Bo]

And your one of them, you have no clue about whats going on.

I am more informed than anyone who watches anything else. Besides cable news is outdated. In today's times text updates and the internet are more efficient.

For some reason, it's very hard to believe that.

Oh well if you find it hard to believe then I guess it has to be that way right.

Yeah, I guess it does have to be that way.