NY-Marist: Gillibrand would win Dem. Primary and beats King and Pataki (user search)
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Lunar
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« on: March 04, 2009, 11:27:50 AM »

it's a name recognition poll, everyone
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2009, 11:46:29 PM »

Gillibrand would also have this thing called money that McCarthy utterly lacks.  Name recognition problems can be solved with lots and lots of money.

Plus, McCarthy isn't really a liberal's dream.  I don't get why the left likes her so much.  She was registered Republican until, what, 2002?  Gillibrand is more anti-war too.

Maloney could beat Gillibrand though.
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Lunar
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2009, 04:58:53 AM »

is that serious or 6 am crazy talk?

McCarthy really isn't that liberal outside of a single issue and she has a pathetic fundraising record compared to Gillibrand.  Gillibrand has more liberal in terms of government transparency and foreign policy, and has a fully liberal record on the environment and women's rights, and will have a liberal voting recording on everything else coming into 2010, so there will be less desire by liberal fundraising groups to spend big to replace her with someone else who will vote exactly the same.  I think that makes sense.  Why would people pay big money to switch personalities but not votes?

Maloney and Israel could both take down Gillibrand on a 1 on 1 primary, however. They have more establishment support than Kirsten.  I'm not really familiar with Israel and Maloney's personalities, outside of the fact that they're bitter.
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2009, 10:05:55 PM »

Outside of her being relatively unknown still (that's easily fixed with $30 million dollars), this could be a byproduct of people who preferred other people besides her to replace Clinton.  If your candidate didn't get picked, you might be artificially more likely to select "no opinion" or whatever.

Gillibrand is 100% in the middle of both the Schumer and Clinton factions, but she's 100% out of the Bloomberg and other Democratic NYC factions.  I wonder what will happen in the primary.

Stranger seems serious about running for the record.  His candidacy could easily scare away some of the NYC Congressmen from running, since if the vote gets split too much, then they could lose their job (unlike Stranger who is up for reelection in '09, not '10). 

We'll see.  The underlying politics seem to be creating more vultures after her seat, but too many vultures and she becomes safe.  The only "easy" candidates to get to clear the field are Congressmen who have to give up their seats to run.
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