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« on: March 09, 2009, 11:20:20 pm »
« edited: March 13, 2009, 08:27:55 pm by Verily »

Taking the initiative, I, as a selected delegate from the Northeast, am opening a sign-up for all selected convention delegates. I will keep a roster here as well as other information for delegates. Please, if you have been selected by your Region, indicate your presence at the Convention below.

Delegates from the Northeast (5)
Verily     X Verily
Lief     X Lief
AndrewCT     X AndrewCT
Smid     X Smid
Conor Flynn

Delegates from the Southeast (3)
BrandonH      X BrandonH
Daniel Adams     X Daniel Adams
DWTL     X DWTL

Delegates from the Mideast (4)
Afleitch      X Afleitch
Hashemite       X Hashemite
South Park Conservative     X SPC
Franzl      X Franzl

Delegates from the Midwest (3)
Ilikeverin      X ilikeverin
Dead0man       X dead0man
Lewis Trondheim      X Delegate 3rd Class, Lewis Trondheim (Yes, I will transcribe it.)

Delegates from the Pacific (5)
Bgwah       X Bgwah
Marokai Blue      X Marokai Blue
Meekermariner      X Meeker
CultureKing       X CultureKing
MaxQue        X MaxQue
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2009, 11:45:58 pm »

On behalf of the Mideast,

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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2009, 01:10:49 am »

Hi.

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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2009, 01:33:58 am »

Proudly representing the Mideast,

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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2009, 06:35:17 am »

Humbly representing the Northeast citizenry, X Smid.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2009, 07:18:25 am »

Demat kamaladed!

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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2009, 07:51:53 am »

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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2009, 10:56:29 am »

Representin' that region I live in.

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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2009, 02:15:21 pm »

Representing the Dirty South,

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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2009, 04:41:59 pm »

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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2009, 10:58:37 pm »
« Edited: March 11, 2009, 11:03:55 pm by Verily »

Hmmm... It's not clear to me how the Pacific's selection system works. It may be 5-seat STV, or it may be 5-seat/5-vote FPTP.

If it's 5-seat STV, Ogis was elected to the Convention (by virtue of Lunar and CultureKing having no first preferences), but he is eliminated for being ineligible as a banned user and so CultureKing narrowly edges out Lunar. Bgwah, Marokai, Meeker and MaxQue are elected in this circumstance. (I think, not certain on quite how it would work, Lunar might edge MaxQue despite having no first preferences.)

But, If it's 5-seat/5-vote FPTP, Bgwah, Meeker, Lunar and Marokai are elected with CultureKing and MaxQue tied.
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2009, 11:45:05 pm »

Hmmm... It's not clear to me how the Pacific's selection system works. It may be 5-seat STV, or it may be 5-seat/5-vote FPTP.

If it's 5-seat STV, Ogis was elected to the Convention (by virtue of Lunar and CultureKing having no first preferences), but he is eliminated for being ineligible as a banned user and so CultureKing narrowly edges out Lunar. Bgwah, Marokai, Meeker and MaxQue are elected in this circumstance. (I think, not certain on quite how it would work, Lunar might edge MaxQue despite having no first preferences.)

But, If it's 5-seat/5-vote FPTP, Bgwah, Meeker, Lunar and Marokai are elected with CultureKing and MaxQue tied.

We also have the fact than Lunar said he will perhaps refuse to be seated if a more active person than him would enter in the Convention by doing that.
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2009, 11:49:03 pm »

Hmmm... It's not clear to me how the Pacific's selection system works. It may be 5-seat STV, or it may be 5-seat/5-vote FPTP.

If it's 5-seat STV, Ogis was elected to the Convention (by virtue of Lunar and CultureKing having no first preferences), but he is eliminated for being ineligible as a banned user and so CultureKing narrowly edges out Lunar. Bgwah, Marokai, Meeker and MaxQue are elected in this circumstance. (I think, not certain on quite how it would work, Lunar might edge MaxQue despite having no first preferences.)

But, If it's 5-seat/5-vote FPTP, Bgwah, Meeker, Lunar and Marokai are elected with CultureKing and MaxQue tied.

We also have the fact than Lunar said he will perhaps refuse to be seated if a more active person than him would enter in the Convention by doing that.

True, but that's his decision, not one of the electoral officials.
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2009, 11:58:40 pm »

Hmmm... It's not clear to me how the Pacific's selection system works. It may be 5-seat STV, or it may be 5-seat/5-vote FPTP.

If it's 5-seat STV, Ogis was elected to the Convention (by virtue of Lunar and CultureKing having no first preferences), but he is eliminated for being ineligible as a banned user and so CultureKing narrowly edges out Lunar. Bgwah, Marokai, Meeker and MaxQue are elected in this circumstance. (I think, not certain on quite how it would work, Lunar might edge MaxQue despite having no first preferences.)

But, If it's 5-seat/5-vote FPTP, Bgwah, Meeker, Lunar and Marokai are elected with CultureKing and MaxQue tied.

We also have the fact than Lunar said he will perhaps refuse to be seated if a more active person than him would enter in the Convention by doing that.

True, but that's his decision, not one of the electoral officials.

I know, but that can be the cause of another change.
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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2009, 12:00:15 am »
« Edited: March 12, 2009, 12:01:58 am by Verily »

That would, however, require another election. Lunar cannot simply refuse to be elected, he must be elected and refuse to serve. No matter in what manner the Pacific is choosing its delegates, the vacancy would have to be filled by a special election.

Of course, since the regions are more or less free to make up their own rules regarding delegate selection, the governor could simply appoint someone.
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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2009, 12:04:28 am »

That would, however, require another election. Lunar cannot simply refuse to be elected, he must be elected and refuse to serve.

Not if he is considered like a write-in. After all, he didn't vote for himself and he was unclear in his candidacy declaration.
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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2009, 12:18:31 am »

Hmmm... It's not clear to me how the Pacific's selection system works. It may be 5-seat STV, or it may be 5-seat/5-vote FPTP.

If it's 5-seat STV, Ogis was elected to the Convention (by virtue of Lunar and CultureKing having no first preferences), but he is eliminated for being ineligible as a banned user and so CultureKing narrowly edges out Lunar. Bgwah, Marokai, Meeker and MaxQue are elected in this circumstance. (I think, not certain on quite how it would work, Lunar might edge MaxQue despite having no first preferences.)

But, If it's 5-seat/5-vote FPTP, Bgwah, Meeker, Lunar and Marokai are elected with CultureKing and MaxQue tied.

In the announcement of candidates' nominations, Cultureking raised the question of whether it was to be elected by STV or Multiple FPTP, however the question was never answered:

So, how do we want to go about this? Have everyone put their preferences in order? Vote for five and the ones with most votes becomes the delegates?

The first vote, by Bgwah suggested that he believed that a Multiple FPTP method was to be practiced:


All subsequent voters likewise allocated five votes, and without allocating preference numbers (although an order of preference may be implied by the order in which the candidates' names were listed). It would seem, however, that most voters adopted a multiple FPTP methodology and by your analysis, Cultureking and MaxQue are tied. Perhaps a run-off may be necessary?
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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2009, 07:32:31 am »
« Edited: March 12, 2009, 11:40:20 am by Verily »

Since there is some indication that the ordering was "preferential", one might argue that you could look through where each of CultureKing and MaxQue was ranked by each voter and determine a winner form that. I haven't done so yet.

Overall, Bgwah and Meeker have 11 votes, Marokai and Lunar have 10, CultureKing and MaxQue have 6, and ogis had 1. But, if ogis's vote is retroactively invalidated, MaxQue has only 5 votes while CultureKing still has 6 (with Bgwah, Lunar and Meeker each losing a vote as well), in which case CultureKing is selected.
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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2009, 09:37:13 am »

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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2009, 05:19:24 pm »
« Edited: March 12, 2009, 05:24:54 pm by GMantis »

Delegates from the Midwest (3)
Ilikeverin
Dead0man
Lewis Trondheim (all by my count and pending certification)
Your count is correct. The delegates have been now certified:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=93449.msg1942638#msg1942638
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« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2009, 05:54:14 pm »

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« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2009, 11:27:29 pm »

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« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2009, 11:59:43 pm »

x Marokai Blue

(Or as our Governor likes to say, Marokia. Tongue)
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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2009, 12:06:54 am »

Just as a notice, our Governor may have to re-certify the results because of his unfortunate typo..
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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2009, 12:09:09 am »

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