EFCA in trouble in Senate

[Sam Spade]

when did we start needing 60 votes to pass anything?  seriously, Reid needs to make the Republicans stand up and talk for 30 hours without taking a piss or whatever it is every time they vote against cloture.

(not that I support the EFCA and not that I oppose it.  it's just a joke that the GOP gets to ram through a gigantic, crippling tax cut by a vote of 51-50 and the Dems need the Arlen Specters of the world so they can beat that number by ten)

Budget/appropriations bills don't require a cloture vote.  Other legislation does.  Go read the Senate rules.

[opebo]

...I strongly doubt that if unions just disappeared things like weekends & 8-hour work days would disappear without massive public uprising occurring as a result.

Ok, my first point to you, you absurd ostrich, is that unions were the massive public uprising against the miseries of capitalism.

Secondly, I would also point out that weekends and eight hour workdays are already things of the past for most of the lower half of american society!

Good lord man, get your head out of the sand and notice what is happening in this plutocracy.  Your yellow avatar = bootlicking.  Nothing more, nothing less.

[© tweed]

when did we start needing 60 votes to pass anything?  seriously, Reid needs to make the Republicans stand up and talk for 30 hours without taking a piss or whatever it is every time they vote against cloture.

(not that I support the EFCA and not that I oppose it.  it's just a joke that the GOP gets to ram through a gigantic, crippling tax cut by a vote of 51-50 and the Dems need the Arlen Specters of the world so they can beat that number by ten)

Budget/appropriations bills don't require a cloture vote.  Other legislation does.  Go read the Senate rules.

+1, but hardly the most important point... it's not like there are no other examples

[Frodo]

Just exactly how many senators support this legislation?