Is astrology worthless?

[12th Doctor]

Yes, it is 100% bullsh!t. I don't like it when people get PC and are like 'Well, it might be right about some things." It's garbage, period. The only horoscopes of any value at all is The Onion's.

Horoscopes are not astrology.

Almost 90% of the people I know actually do match their astrological profile.  I'm not saying it happens for the reasons that "you Venus was in Cancer" but... I find it oddly convincing.

[12th Doctor]

     Yes.

Yes, it is 100% bullsh!t. I don't like it when people get PC and are like 'Well, it might be right about some things." It's garbage, period. The only horoscopes of any value at all is The Onion's.

Horoscopes are not astrology.

Almost 90% of the people I know actually do match their astrological profile.  I'm not saying it happens for the reasons that "you Venus was in Cancer" but... I find it oddly convincing.

     I'm curious then, so what do you think my sign is?

Ummm... I honestly don't know enough about you, dude.

[12th Doctor]

     Yes.

Yes, it is 100% bullsh!t. I don't like it when people get PC and are like 'Well, it might be right about some things." It's garbage, period. The only horoscopes of any value at all is The Onion's.

Horoscopes are not astrology.

Almost 90% of the people I know actually do match their astrological profile.  I'm not saying it happens for the reasons that "you Venus was in Cancer" but... I find it oddly convincing.

     I'm curious then, so what do you think my sign is?

Ummm... I honestly don't know enough about you, dude.

     Fair enough. It occurred to me after asking that it might be hard to tell details about someone's personality over the internet.

I can tell you that air signs, or people with a strong presence of air signs in their chart generally have the strongest leanings toward libertarianism.  So, Aquarius, Gemini and Libra, then, although Libras are usually the most conservative of that group.  Also, fire signs tend to be quite libertarian, if given the proper configuration in the rest of their chart, that would be Aries, Leo and Sagittarius, but Aries tends to be extremely selfish, and all of them are egotistical.  Aries, in particular can be extremely dictatorial, given the right conditions... and I am not just saying that because Hitler was one.  Aries and Taurus are the ultimate "my way of the highway" signs but Aries tends to be far more arrogant about it, where as Taurus is just stubborn.

The other signs all tend towards authoritarianism, generally in the form of "rules and structure."

[12th Doctor]

I'm a Sagittarius, so so much for the libertarian theory.

What is your birthday?  I mean year and everything.

[12th Doctor]

I'm a Sagittarius, so so much for the libertarian theory.

What is your birthday?  I mean year and everything.

December 18, 1983

Actually, BRTD, you sound alot like a Sagittarius, and I say that taking no account for personal bias.  When I said "Libertarian" I should have noted that I didn't necessarily mean political libertarian, simply that personally, fire and air signs tend to thrive more off of personal freedom to do want they want, where as water and earth signs are much more "rules, methods, and traditions oriented."

Coincidentally, you actually have the exact same birthday as a girl I used to date, and I didn't get along so well with her either, alot of the time.  Our relationship was helped by the fact that we could settle our differences face to face, and well, she had a vagina, and you don't.

http://www.astrology-online.com/sagittar.htm

I like the basic Sun sign profiles this site has, in that they are detailed, and the profiles don't all sound like variations of the same themes.

This is just sun sign astrology, though, which doesn't tell the who story... in fact, any good astrologer would tell you that astrology itself cannot really tell the whole story.

I have had my full chart done, and its what really convinced me that there might be something to astrology... though I could certainly never qualify it, scientifically, which bothers me.  But my chart was extremely accurate in really odd, random, and precise ways, right down to the fact that I would gain a significant inheritance from a great aunt on my mother's side.  But more in terms of personality, preferences, etc.

[12th Doctor]

In terms of planet placement, BRTD, your chart looks like this:

Moon in Gemini
Mercury in Capricorn
Venus in Scorpio
Mars in Libra
Jupiter in Sagittarius
Saturn in Scorpio

I would tell you what all that means, but I am not an "expert" and would be bound to make mistakes.

By comparison, mine look like this:

Sun in Aquarius
Moon in Taurus
Mercury in Capricorn
Venus in Capricorn
Mars in Scorpio
Jupiter in Sagittarius
Saturn in Scorpio

[12th Doctor]

It is amusing when religious people criticize astrology, since religion is something for which there is no empirical evidence.

I actually don't find any Biblical basis for opposition to astrology.  In fact, if anything, the Christian scripture would seem to argue against the notion that there is anything inherently wrong with it.

The Magi were astrologers, in fact, "astrologer" and "Magi" meant pretty much the same thing.  The "star" they followed was a planetary alignment, whose significance they likely understood because of their knowledge of astrology.  They were probably Zoroastrians, but they were almost definitely not Jews.

In the OT, no one is ever punished for divination, which was everywhere in the ancient world, but what they were punished for, such as the case with Saul, was not trusting God, and consulting divination above God.

[12th Doctor]

So if astrology is real, or close to real, everyone born on November 14, 1986, will have the same personality as me?

No, because:

1) Time and location of birth are also factors.

2) Because of different personal influences, including sex of the individual.

Astrology and horoscopes aren't the same thing.  Most people who are serious about astrology disdain horoscopes for their supposed predictive power.  An astrologer would tell you that they are more about gaining insight, and through that, you can note tendencies, but that is it.