Specter to switch parties

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

If this is true, congratulations to my Democratic friends on gaining a great Senator and achieving 60 votes in the U.S. Senate.

And yet your Facebook status says nothing like this. Pick a side, Don. Really.

Huh?  My "Congratulations" here is kinda tongue-and-cheek... its not something they accomplished, its a "gift" that "we" gave to them.  

For reference, my Facebook status says this:
"Don Johnson is sad that the Democrats now have 60 votes in the Senate to rubber-stamp Obama's radical agenda."

I am upset that my own Party, through its own actions, has thrown away any hope of opposing Obama in the near term.  That being said, I must snicker a little at Specter denying Toomey the pleasure of defeating him in the primary.

Read some of the poster comments on the sites that are reporting this.  Statements like "Take McCain and his daughter with him", etc., etc.  How many more seats do you want to give to the Democrats? 1?  5? 10?  How many more seats are we going to give away before we get a handle on the RINO-hunters?

[Keystone Phil]

Don, who are you supporting in the General?

[Lunar]

Is he going to support card check now? 

I wouldn't be surprised if he does.  It still won't have the votes.

"as is" will be an important phrase as the bill gets debated.  A compromise version will emerge that previous opponents can claim they "now support" [read: they'll only support it if it's guaranteed to pass]

[Purple State]

Didn't you recently yell at me Phil for alluding to Specter possibly running as an independent? And now he is a Democrat. When will you learn to stop disagreeing with me? It's no longer ironic, just boring.

[Keystone Phil]

Didn't you recently yell at me Phil for alluding to Specter possibly running as an independent? And now he is a Democrat. When will you learn to stop disagreeing with me? It's no longer ironic, just boring.

...

I "yelled" about him running as an Independent. He isn't doing that. 

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

Don, who are you supporting in the General?

At this point, write-in Tom Ridge.

[Rowan]

I want every Republican dope on this forum that defended this piece of trash to apologize.

Specter has said that he wil not change his position on card check.

LOL

I apologize.

[The Mikado]

Didn't you recently yell at me Phil for alluding to Specter possibly running as an independent? And now he is a Democrat. When will you learn to stop disagreeing with me? It's no longer ironic, just boring.

To be fair, Specter is a machine guy.  He's switching from the R machine to the D machine.  Indy would be completely out of character for him.

[Meeker]

Of course Specter is going to say he still opposes EFCA right when he switches. Give him a few weeks.

[Keystone Phil]

Don, who are you supporting in the General?

At this point, write-in Tom Ridge.

Uh huh. Maybe we'll get you to man up to your mistakes in a year, Don. I won't hold my breath though.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

Rush Limbaugh is now advocating that McCain switch next.  Do you agree with that Phil?

[BM]

Yeah, he also laid rumors of him running as a Dem to rest a few weeks ago.  He has no principle, really.

Will another more moderate candidate step up to face Toomey in the GOP primary now?

[Landslide Lyndon]

Rush Limbaugh is now advocating that McCain switch next.  Do you agree with that Phil?

I wonder what Olympia Snowe is thinking.

[bullmoose88]

Sad day in that it reflects the changed (or changing) political landscape in this country.

Hmmph.

[Keystone Phil]

Rush Limbaugh is now advocating that McCain switch next.  Do you agree with that Phil?

No and stop trying to change the subject. I've made clear that I think McCain is a conservative and have frequently said that Rush is a tool.

Stop running away when you're losing, Don.

[Franzl]

Sad day in that it reflects the changed (or changing) political landscape in this country.

Hmmph.

It is kind of sad to see all the moderates leave the party.....

out of interest, does this party switch affect your vote?

[Keystone Phil]

Sad day in that it reflects the changed (or changing) political landscape in this country.

Hmmph.

It is kind of sad to see all the moderates leave the party.....

Uh huh. And when he's running in the Dem primary next year, he'll be a liberal hero. Give me a break.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Sad day in that it reflects the changed (or changing) political landscape in this country.

Hmmph.

It is kind of sad to see all the moderates leave the party.....

Uh huh. And when he's running in the Dem primary next year, he'll be a liberal hero. Give me a break.

Well Bob Casey isn't exactly a liberal icon either.

[Keystone Phil]

Well Bob Casey isn't exactly a liberal icon either.

He didn't need to be. He's a Casey. 

[bullmoose88]

Sad day in that it reflects the changed (or changing) political landscape in this country.

Hmmph.

It is kind of sad to see all the moderates leave the party.....

out of interest, does this party switch affect your vote?

I don't know.  I know Phil hates when I say this, but I'm voting for Arlen regardless of what party he was running as, as for the idea I'd want to switch...well I can't tell...

I'll give Phil this: I'm not sure if the Republican party left Arlen...it probably did, that's probably still not really Arlen's motivation for leaving, aside from 200,000 or so people like me who left the primary electorate.

I'm just going to have to re-evaulate if myself and the party have left each other.

Shrug.

But I'm glad we'll still have Arlen.  PA needs seniority.

[Storebought]

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In the sense that the GOP has finally rid itself of a scumbag, then yes.

But as long as boobs (Cornyn, McConnell, Boehner, and Steele) continue to run the party, then the bottom of its electoral votes won't be seen for years out.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Glad to have you, Arlen.

[Sam Spade]

If this is true, congratulations to my Democratic friends on gaining a great Senator and achieving 60 votes in the U.S. Senate.

And yet your Facebook status says nothing like this. Pick a side, Don. Really.

Huh?  My "Congratulations" here is kinda tongue-and-cheek... its not something they accomplished, its a "gift" that "we" gave to them.  

For reference, my Facebook status says this:
"Don Johnson is sad that the Democrats now have 60 votes in the Senate to rubber-stamp Obama's radical agenda."

I am upset that my own Party, through its own actions, has thrown away any hope of opposing Obama in the near term.  That being said, I must snicker a little at Specter denying Toomey the pleasure of defeating him in the primary.

Read some of the poster comments on the sites that are reporting this.  Statements like "Take McCain and his daughter with him", etc., etc.  How many more seats do you want to give to the Democrats? 1?  5? 10?  How many more seats are we going to give away before we get a handle on the RINO-hunters?

I've already told you what's going on, Don, in another thread (remember?  )

However, there is a part of me - the old Southern self-destructive side, common in black-belt whites and slave blacks (not to mention the Scots-Irish generally) that thinks it's probably for the best if Obama's stuff does pass.

Why?  Because, well, passing his stuff helps in enhancing the possibility the worst-case scenarios I've outlined before might actually occur.

Sure, it's probably likely that if the aforementioned events comes to pass, we get a dictatorship.  But the crap that's been going on last few years has been such that I'll take that chance.  

[Sam Spade]

But as long as boobs (Cornyn, McConnell, Boehner, and Steele) continue to run the party, then the bottom of its electoral votes won't be seen for years out.

That's a reasonable counter.  Even though I'm really talking about "bottom of viability".

But my point is actually this.  An event like this might cause the "boobs" to reevaluate their positions and they may "stumble" onto a viable path.

The bottom usually occurs before the viable path is initiated, I should note.

[Keystone Phil]

I just got Specter's statement released to the Philly GOP. Laughable.