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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: May 01, 2009, 03:16:03 AM »

So, what do you think about doing the same topic that we have for American Presidents ?

Here's my list :
Nicolas Sarkozy : 2007-2012
Dominique Strauss-Khan : 2012-2022
Jean-François Copé : 2022-2027

What do you think about it ?
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2009, 12:54:43 PM »
« Edited: May 01, 2009, 03:29:25 PM by Antonio V »

Where does the certainty in Sarkozy's defeat come from?
Sure he's not very popular right now but the last president losing his reelection bid was Valery Giscard d'Estaing in 1981 and the only socialist president in the last dozens of years (if I recall correctly) was Mitterrand 'til 1995.
Until 2012 there's plenty of time for Sarkozy to rebuild his image, I don't say he will but he could.

And Antonio, why Strauss and where does he stand compared to others, like Royal and Delanoe?

I'm sure of nothing. It's a possibility. Sarkozy is now a very unpopular president and people has a lot of reasons not to vote for him. Strauss-Khan is the only socialist who today has an image of economical and international competence. Soialist will necessarily have to chose a candidate, and they have interst to take the best one. Copé has the political craftiness and cynism of Sarkozy. If Sarkozy hates him, it's because he knows that when he will want to take his place, he will treat him as Sarkozy treated Chirac.

Anyways, where are your own lists ?
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2009, 03:28:42 PM »


Didn't you see the American corresponding topic ? And Obama became president only 3 moth ago !
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2009, 04:35:26 AM »

Apparently nobody saw this topic https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=77200.0.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2009, 09:14:50 AM »

Why everybody sees Peillon as a prominent candidate ? Huh
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2009, 11:25:37 AM »
« Edited: May 05, 2009, 11:33:22 AM by Antonio V »


Yes, so weird. That guy isn't a leader. He can't gather around him.

We're speaking of the president of France, right?


Was Sarkozy this kind of guy ten years ago?

Oh actually, yeah.

Frankly, I well discovered Sarkozy in 2002, while he became Home Minister, when I saw that guy I told me: "Damn, that guy wanna go far, and I don't see what could stop him", I had that feeling until the nomination of Royal, November 2006, here during a few minutes, I doubted, and then I thought that Sarkozy was still ahead.

Well, OK, in 2002, it might have been easy to see that, but frankly when you look at him earlier, that was that guy who want to be in charge... Remember the "maternelle de Neuilly" for example? (for those who don't know, Sarkozy, mayor of Neuilly at the time, physically involved himself in the ruling of an hostages taking in a school of lil kids)

Agreed. Since 1995, everybody knew he would be president, though a less ridiculous socialist candidate could have prevented that.

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I don't think that Besancenot has any real chance to ever become president. Yes, he's quite popular, a poll gives him as the third better opponent for Sarkozy. But he remains, and will ever remain an extremist. An extreminst can be very popular, incredibly popular : it can even be qualified for the 2nd round. But the idea that he could get more than 50% is not credible. Ah, and don't forget that he claims not wanting the job !

About Bayrou and Strauss-Khan, agreed. Though it would be really funny for a centrist to paint a socialist as a technocrat...
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2009, 11:46:34 AM »

I don't think that Besancenot has any real chance to ever become president. Yes, he's quite popular, a poll gives him as the third better opponent for Sarkozy. But he remains, and will ever remain an extremist. An extreminst can be very popular, incredibly popular : it can even be qualified for the 2nd round. But the idea that he could get more than 50% is not credible

Yep, that's what I conditioned this possibility to an "extreme situation". An extreme person for an extreme situation.

With "extreme situation" you mean a second French Revolution ? The Crisis is hard, in France it's hardest than elsewere because we used to have a very efficient welfare state protection that today is breaking. But to elect a man as Besancenot, It would necessarily mean an unbelievable chaos. Is it possible in a democratic state ? I hope it's not.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2017, 05:03:30 PM »

So, what do you think about doing the same topic that we have for American Presidents ?

Here's my list :
Nicolas Sarkozy : 2007-2012
Dominique Strauss-Khan : 2012-2022
Jean-François Copé : 2022-2027

What do you think about it ?

Oh sweet summer child...

Here's a new prediction to be ridiculed in five years.

Flawless Beautiful Macron: 2017-2022
Flawless Beautiful Baroin: 2022-2027
Panzergirl: 2027-her death
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,152
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2017, 07:52:52 PM »

So, what do you think about doing the same topic that we have for American Presidents ?

Here's my list :
Nicolas Sarkozy : 2007-2012
Dominique Strauss-Khan : 2012-2022
Jean-François Copé : 2022-2027

What do you think about it ?

Oh sweet summer child...

Here's a new prediction to be ridiculed in five years.

Flawless Beautiful Macron: 2017-2022
Flawless Beautiful Baroin: 2022-2027
Panzergirl: 2027-her death

Hey, you were totally right about Sarko being an one-termer.

At 16, that was probably just wishful thinking.
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