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« Reply #75 on: June 09, 2009, 10:48:49 AM »
I could never figure out what any big problem with Morales was beyond "OMG LEFT WING LEADER IN SOUTH AMERICA, MUST BE CHAVEZ CLONE!" nonsense.
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« Reply #76 on: June 09, 2009, 11:43:07 AM »
Quote from: Too young to kill, too old to contain on June 09, 2009, 10:48:49 AM
I could never figure out what any big problem with Morales was beyond "OMG LEFT WING LEADER IN SOUTH AMERICA, MUST BE CHAVEZ CLONE!" nonsense.
Just the likely future: nationalizing too much (please note I haven't written "at all") may weaken economic development in a land which isn't easy (no sea coast, high mountains and thick forest).
Remember nationalizations aren't only against big "predator" companies, but also against middle companies from Brazil, Argentina or else.

His land reform cannot be contested on principle, but the implementation seems to be a bit harsh.

And Morales has unfortunately begun to take the Chavist path: modify the constitution whenever you wish to...
That's why I have already made a difference between Morales and Correa.
Correa has refused to take this path.

Plus (but that's a minor point), coca may be a traditional local culture, but, when you're a head of state, you aren't an ad-man for drugs. Morales has big views on globalization, developement, democracy: he can't say he isn't aware of the bad effect of doing this (like Mbeki having been... unclear on HIV).
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« Reply #77 on: June 09, 2009, 03:19:03 PM »
Felipe Calderon (In protest over the Morales votes, and the Kirchner votes 2 rounds ago Tongue lol)
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« Reply #78 on: June 09, 2009, 07:02:43 PM »
GROUP A

Antigua and Barbuda - Baldwin Spencer
Argentina - Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner -eliminated round 27
Austria - Werner Faymann
Barbados - David Thompson
Bolivia - Evo Morales
Belize - Dean Barrow
Brazil - Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva
Denmark - Lars Lokke Rasmussen
Ecuador - Rafael Correa
Estonia - Andrus Ansip
Finland - Tarja Halonen
Greece - Kostas Karamanlis -eliminated round 26
Japan - Taro Aso
Korea, South - Lee Myung-Bak
Liberia - Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf
Luxembourg - Jean-Claude Juncker
Macedonia - Nikola Gruevski
Mali - Amadou Toumani Toure
Malta - Lawrence Gonzi
Mexico - Felipe Calderon -eliminated round 29
Micronesia - Manny Moni
Mongolia - Sanjaagiin Bayar
Netherlands - Jan Peter Balkenende
Norway - Jens Stoltenberg
Panama - Martin Torrijos
Peru - Alan Garcia
Portugal - Jose Socrates
Samoa - Tuilaepa Aiono Sailele Malielegaoi
Sierra Leone - Ernest Bai Koroma
Spain - Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero
Sweden - Frederik Reinfeldt
Timor-Leste - Xanana Gusmao
Trinidad and Tobago - Patrick Manning -eliminated round 28
United States - Barack Obama
Uruguay - Tabare Vasquez

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« Reply #79 on: June 09, 2009, 07:05:20 PM »
Samoa, for sure......what a doozy of a name.....Confused
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« Reply #80 on: June 09, 2009, 07:21:00 PM »
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« Reply #81 on: June 09, 2009, 07:41:53 PM »
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« Reply #82 on: June 09, 2009, 09:01:51 PM »
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« Reply #83 on: June 09, 2009, 09:25:01 PM »
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« Reply #84 on: June 09, 2009, 11:16:00 PM »
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« Reply #85 on: June 09, 2009, 11:34:20 PM »
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« Reply #86 on: June 10, 2009, 01:57:27 AM »
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« Reply #87 on: June 10, 2009, 07:54:06 AM »
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Quote from: big bad fab on June 09, 2009, 11:43:07 AM
And Morales has unfortunately begun to take the Chavist path: modify the constitution whenever you wish to...
That's why I have already made a difference between Morales and Correa.
Correa has refused to take this path.
If I'm not wrong, Sarkozy also modified the French constitution in 2008. Chirac and Jospin also did it as De Gaulle in 1962. Are all this people dangerous chavists ?
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« Reply #88 on: June 10, 2009, 08:01:30 AM »
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« Reply #89 on: June 10, 2009, 08:12:44 AM »
Quote from: Antonio V on June 10, 2009, 07:54:06 AM
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Quote from: big bad fab on June 09, 2009, 11:43:07 AM
And Morales has unfortunately begun to take the Chavist path: modify the constitution whenever you wish to...
That's why I have already made a difference between Morales and Correa.
Correa has refused to take this path.
If I'm not wrong, Sarkozy also modified the French constitution in 2008. Chirac and Jospin also did it as De Gaulle in 1962. Are all this people dangerous chavists ?

Constitutional amendments weren't really the same, far from it...!

Read a bit about Chavez, you'll understand that it's an "asymptotic" dictature: never really a complete dictature, but an always deeper authoritarianism, with courts and electoral commission more and more packed with "friends", with governors or mayors elected and then suspended when tehy are not Chavistas, with a presidential mandate longer and longer, with trade unions more and more controlled, with Chavistas brigades which have law powers in some parts of everyday life, with a use of PVDSA and its "benefits" without any transparency and in a more and more bureaucratic way, etc.

What Chavez has created is the fact that his power lies in a continuous process towards dictature, not a real dictature but a dictature in the making, without never reaching it, making him able to say that this is still a democracy, only because there are elections and opposition parties are not completely forbidden.

It's very clever, because you always hope it will improve or go back a little bit, when oil prices will rebound, when Bush will be out, when I don't know what.
But it keeps going down and down.

Unfortunately, Morales seems to take the same path: it's a disappointment.
I wouldn't say the same of Correa, though, who seems to respect democracy.
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« Reply #90 on: June 10, 2009, 10:44:21 AM »
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« Reply #91 on: June 10, 2009, 04:43:50 PM »
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« Reply #92 on: June 10, 2009, 05:36:36 PM »
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« Reply #93 on: June 11, 2009, 01:45:20 AM »
« Edited: June 11, 2009, 04:03:32 AM by At first I was afraid, I was platypus »
GROUP A Round Thirty-One

Section One
Antigua and Barbuda - Baldwin Spencer
Argentina - Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner -eliminated round 27
Austria - Werner Faymann
Barbados - David Thompson
Bolivia - Evo Morales
Belize - Dean Barrow
Brazil - Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva
Denmark - Lars Lokke Rasmussen
Ecuador - Rafael Correa
Estonia - Andrus Ansip
Finland - Tarja Halonen
Greece - Kostas Karamanlis -eliminated round 26
Japan - Taro Aso
Korea, South - Lee Myung-Bak
Liberia - Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf
Luxembourg - Jean-Claude Juncker
Macedonia - Nikola Gruevski
Section Two
Mali - Amadou Toumani Toure
Malta - Lawrence Gonzi
Mexico - Felipe Calderon -eliminated round 29
Micronesia - Manny Moni
Mongolia - Sanjaagiin Bayar -eliminated round 30
Netherlands - Jan Peter Balkenende
Norway - Jens Stoltenberg
Panama - Martin Torrijos
Peru - Alan Garcia
Portugal - Jose Socrates
Samoa - Tuilaepa Aiono Sailele Malielegaoi
Sierra Leone - Ernest Bai Koroma
Spain - Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero
Sweden - Frederik Reinfeldt
Timor-Leste - Xanana Gusmao
Trinidad and Tobago - Patrick Manning -eliminated round 28
United States - Barack Obama
Uruguay - Tabare Vasquez

In this round, you have a vote in both sections of the group; two leaders will be eliminated
Vote for the leaders you want to eliminate. Most votes=eliminated. Voting will last for 24 hours.
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« Reply #94 on: June 11, 2009, 01:48:34 AM »
Section one: Evo Morales
Section two: Alan Garcia
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« Reply #95 on: June 11, 2009, 01:58:47 AM »
Section one: Andrus Ansip
Section two: Manny Moni
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« Reply #96 on: June 11, 2009, 03:35:34 AM »
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« Reply #97 on: June 11, 2009, 04:21:54 AM »
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« Reply #98 on: June 11, 2009, 05:13:41 AM »
1.Rafael Correa
2.Ernest Bai Koroma
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« Reply #99 on: June 11, 2009, 07:02:53 AM »
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