Group A - World Leaders Survivor - Stage Two (Complete)

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Evo Morales

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Kirchner

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Estonia, come on.... aren't there far worse leaders to pick....

Patrick Manning.

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Why Patrick Manning ?

He's wasting national resources in big projects that won't be good for his country.

And because it's useless to vote for Morales, as even a democrat in Estonia is worse than him for some posters... So...

You aren't ready to vote for Morales, whereas I voted for Garcia and I'm ready to vote for Taro Aso and even Lee.

I'm forced to pick others than those so-called rightists.

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Estonia, come on.... aren't they far worse leaders to pick....

Patrick Manning.

No, it's not possible.

I claim immunity for Andrus Ansip.
And so, I don't vote for Manning.

Please go after real horrible conservatives (or converted conservatives), like Taro Aso or Lee Myung-Bak or Alan Garcia.
Or even Juncker, if you want to keep on the series of Liechtenstein, San Marino, Monaco and Andorra. I would agree.

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Estonia, come on.... aren't they far worse leaders to pick....

Patrick Manning.

No, it's not possible.

I claim immunity for Andrus Ansip.
And so, I don't vote for Manning.

Please go after real horrible conservatives (or converted conservatives), like Taro Aso or Lee Myung-Bak or Alan Garcia.
Or even Juncker, if you want to keep on the series of Liechtenstein, San Marino, Monaco and Andorra. I would agree.

Claiming immunity is next round, not this one

Holy sh**t, so... farewell Andrus Ansip....
I'm sorry, Hughento, a long election night made me screw up all this...

I keep my vote for Patrick Manning.

Please, moderates from all sides, join our protest vote against the pick of Ansip, which would be a shame.

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Thanks Hash, you're the best.

Evo Morales

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I'm sorry but I can't prevent myself from saying that picking Calderon is only ideological.

As for me, I haven't proposed to pick Christofias, communist head of state of Cyprus.

He's communist (and the first communist head of state in a EU country), but that's fine, since he's the first to really try to put an end to the division of Cyprus.
It's in the other group and I would vote for Garcia or Aso before voting for Christofias.

That's just an example...

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I'm sorry but I can't prevent myself from saying that picking Calderon is only ideological.

As for me, I haven't proposed to pick Christofias, communist head of state of Cyprus.

He's communist (and the first communist head of state in a EU country), but that's fine, since he's the first to really try to put an end to the division of Cyprus.
It's in the other group and I would vote for Garcia or Aso before voting for Christofias.

That's just an example...

Calderon has not been exactly successful at dealing with the drug problem in Mexico and in any case I prefer Morales, the first truly representative Bolivian leader.

Calderon seems to be the first to really try to deal with drug... So, it's a good point.

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I could never figure out what any big problem with Morales was beyond "OMG LEFT WING LEADER IN SOUTH AMERICA, MUST BE CHAVEZ CLONE!" nonsense.

Just the likely future: nationalizing too much (please note I haven't written "at all") may weaken economic development in a land which isn't easy (no sea coast, high mountains and thick forest).
Remember nationalizations aren't only against big "predator" companies, but also against middle companies from Brazil, Argentina or else.

His land reform cannot be contested on principle, but the implementation seems to be a bit harsh.

And Morales has unfortunately begun to take the Chavist path: modify the constitution whenever you wish to...
That's why I have already made a difference between Morales and Correa.
Correa has refused to take this path.

Plus (but that's a minor point), coca may be a traditional local culture, but, when you're a head of state, you aren't an ad-man for drugs. Morales has big views on globalization, developement, democracy: he can't say he isn't aware of the bad effect of doing this (like Mbeki having been... unclear on HIV).

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Evo Morales

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And Morales has unfortunately begun to take the Chavist path: modify the constitution whenever you wish to...
That's why I have already made a difference between Morales and Correa.
Correa has refused to take this path.

If I'm not wrong, Sarkozy also modified the French constitution in 2008. Chirac and Jospin also did it as De Gaulle in 1962. Are all this people dangerous chavists ?

Constitutional amendments weren't really the same, far from it...!

Read a bit about Chavez, you'll understand that it's an "asymptotic" dictature: never really a complete dictature, but an always deeper authoritarianism, with courts and electoral commission more and more packed with "friends", with governors or mayors elected and then suspended when tehy are not Chavistas, with a presidential mandate longer and longer, with trade unions more and more controlled, with Chavistas brigades which have law powers in some parts of everyday life, with a use of PVDSA and its "benefits" without any transparency and in a more and more bureaucratic way, etc.

What Chavez has created is the fact that his power lies in a continuous process towards dictature, not a real dictature but a dictature in the making, without never reaching it, making him able to say that this is still a democracy, only because there are elections and opposition parties are not completely forbidden.

It's very clever, because you always hope it will improve or go back a little bit, when oil prices will rebound, when Bush will be out, when I don't know what.
But it keeps going down and down.

Unfortunately, Morales seems to take the same path: it's a disappointment.
I wouldn't say the same of Correa, though, who seems to respect democracy.

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Section one: Evo Morales
Section two: Alan Garcia

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Taro Aso

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I look forward to the final Obama-Morales: I will be so happy to vote to oust Obama

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It's so stupid about Morales.
And I wanted to vote for Aso again.

So Correa as a protest vote.

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Evo Morales

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To eliminate: Baldwin Spencer

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To eliminate: David Thompson

Spencer actually sounds pretty cool, minor country notwithstanding

? And Thompson doesn't sound cool ?
It seems Barbados is better managed than Antigua, that's what I see...

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OMG, would everybody be OK for the 1st time ?

Fortunately, I wasn't the first to vote for Torrijos....

So, with great pleasure, Martin Torrijos.

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Just a question:
Was Torrijos a worse leader than Morales ?

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Boys and girls (not many around here, sigh),

Maybe you can see on the left of this message that I'm about to post my 1000th little silliness, so, can't you all agree to make me a little present, a big surprise, by ousting Morales next round ?

At least, I try to laugh a bit, for fear to have to cry, with Ansip, Dombrovskis, David Thompson,  or others out and Morales still there...

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Evo Morales.

Don't try to explain why you vote Aso over Morales: some of you are ready to vote whatever is still alive just not to oust Morales...
Sure, Aso is an horrible Japanese PM and I was ready to oust him.
But this Morales situation is so stupid (even Torrijos is out before him !!! and with leftists' votes !!!), that I will keep voting in protest.

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OK for incompetent leaders.
Again, I was OK for Aso, many rounds ago. But this Morales stupidity has been too long.
And Ansip is out... OMG: probably an incompetent leader from a rich country.

So, for now, I vote:
Baldwin Spencer.

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OK for incompetent leaders.
Again, I was OK for Aso, many rounds ago. But this Morales stupidity has been too long. And Ansip is out... OMG
So, for now, I vote:

Baldwin Spencer.

But if Aso is stil here on next round, I promise to vote for him. And that's not irony.