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GMantis
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« on: June 05, 2009, 04:54:13 AM »
Greece - Kostas Karamanlis
Steadily bringing Greece to a failed state status.
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GMantis
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2009, 08:14:01 AM »
« Edited: June 06, 2009, 08:17:18 AM by GMantis »
Andrus Ansip
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Dessie Potter
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2009, 07:43:30 AM »
Quote from: dead0man on June 07, 2009, 07:41:14 AM
Quote from: Gustaf on June 06, 2009, 07:35:19 PM
Kirchner, but I'm not enjoying my vote.
Kirchner for me as well, and with the same feeling.

What is everybody's problem with Ansip?
For me, his rather bad human rights record. I don't know about the others.
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GMantis
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2009, 07:55:25 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Night
Of course, his politics against Russians in general have been disgraceful. Of course, just like his predecessors.
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2009, 08:12:05 AM »
Quote from: dead0man on June 07, 2009, 08:04:02 AM
Oh boy.  They moved...MOVED a symbol of Russian OCCUPATION of their country.  I know you have your pro-Russian spin on this, but holy hell man, can't you feel a little sympathy for a people occupied by a foreign invader for half a century?  Especially since they're one of the most free nations in the world since?  cite
And for most Russians this was a symbol of the liberation from Nazi germany. Grave desecration is never defensible, especially when done for spiteful political reasons. I could sympathize with the Estonians if they hadn't led a systematic anti-Russian campaign since Independence, of which this incident is just one of the more blatant.
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GMantis
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2009, 08:29:52 AM »
Quote from: dead0man on June 07, 2009, 08:21:53 AM
Again, they were OCCUPIED by these people for a half of century, how welcoming should they be?  If the moving of a statue and a reburial is the worst thing the govt of Estonia has done to the great Mother Russia she should feel fortunate.
The occupiers (the Soviet troops) left after the Soviet Union fell. They're punishing people who have little to do with the crimes against Estonia. Many are just people who moved in Estonia for work or their children. For most Estonia is their home. A significant proportion supported Estonia's secession from the Soviet Union.
And it's not the worst thing they have done - depriving them of citizenship is much worse:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Estonia#Citizenship
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GMantis
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2009, 11:31:19 AM »
Quote from: Gustaf on June 07, 2009, 11:23:52 AM
Hating Russians is not like hating Turks, of course.
I don't hate Turks and I don't think they should be punishef for the crimes of the Ottoman Empire and Turkey.
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GMantis
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2009, 01:17:34 PM »
Andrus Ansip
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2009, 02:50:00 PM »
Quote from: big bad fab on June 07, 2009, 02:48:34 PM
Estonia, come on.... aren't they far worse leaders to pick....

Patrick Manning.
What's so bad about him.
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2009, 01:59:01 AM »
Felipe Calderon
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2009, 02:47:42 AM »
Quote from: big bad fab on June 09, 2009, 02:43:23 AM
I'm sorry but I can't prevent myself from saying that picking Calderon is only ideological.

As for me, I haven't proposed to pick Christofias, communist head of state of Cyprus.

He's communist (and the first communist head of state in a EU country), but that's fine, since he's the first to really try to put an end to the division of Cyprus.
It's in the other group and I would vote for Garcia or Aso before voting for Christofias.

That's just an example...
Calderon has not been exactly successful at dealing with the drug problem in Mexico and in any case I prefer Morales, the first truly representative Bolivian leader.
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GMantis
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2009, 06:51:35 AM »
Quote from: Gustaf on June 09, 2009, 06:13:32 AM
Calderon may not be perfect but Morales is screwing up Bolivia worse. Mexico's drug problems is not really Calderon's fault either, it has to do with the drug trade shifting away from Colombia and suppliers in general, from what I've read.

So Morales it is. It really is time for him to go...
How is he screwing Bolivia? Is trying to rule Bolivia for the benefit of most of the population instead of just a few screwing up the country?
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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2009, 08:01:30 AM »
Sanjaagiin Bayar
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2009, 01:58:47 AM »
Section one: Andrus Ansip
Section two: Manny Moni
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2009, 03:28:18 PM »
Tuilaepa Lupesoliai Sailele Malielegaoi
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GMantis
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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2009, 04:08:13 AM »
Manny Moni
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2009, 04:10:33 AM »
That's what I was planing to do if you weren't 5 seconds faster Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2009, 07:01:12 AM »
Quote from: War-Raok, Strollad Breizh! on June 13, 2009, 06:42:30 AM
Quote from: dead0man on June 13, 2009, 06:34:14 AM
Ernest Bai Koroma (still the 109th freest country in the world...next closest left in either group? India at 78)

... still using the ranking which put Estonia as freest?
He used it because it was made by a libertarian think tank.
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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2009, 03:19:33 AM »
Manny Moni
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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2009, 02:54:15 AM »
To eliminate: David Thompson
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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2009, 10:50:19 AM »
Martin Torrijos
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« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2009, 01:29:34 PM »
Taro Aso
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GMantis
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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2009, 03:43:03 PM »
Quote from: Gustaf on June 18, 2009, 01:58:08 PM
Aso over Morales? No way is that not ridiculous...

I vote Morales.
Again, one must look at what a leader has done for his country. Japan is not the way it is today because of Taro Aso.
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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2009, 12:55:34 PM »
So now that the Right has been satisfied, can we go back to throwing out incompetent leaders - even if they lead rich countries?
Taro Aso
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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2009, 12:54:25 PM »
Jan Peter Balkenende
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