GERMAN CHANCELLORS SURVIVOR- winner: Willy BRANDT, over Adenauer !

[GMantis]

Hessen and Frankfurt was in the time before Bismark official independent, but in reality nothing. The big countries like Prussia,  Austria and France make with them what they want. This isn't independent.

That's just as independent as most of the world's countries today.

Frankfurt's last head of state hanged himself after annexation, btw. He has a short residential street named after him.

Didn't the unification of Germany enjoy popular suppport? At least in the central parts of the country?

[minionofmidas]

Didn't the unification of Germany enjoy popular suppport? At least in the central parts of the country?

There was no opinion polling at the time. There was very little tradition of mass popular turnout in elections, too - that only began soon after.
Broadly speaking, and in as far as these things can be determined, there was popular support for  unification of Germany under Prussian leadership, but not for the annexations that went at the same time (Hesse Kassel partially excepted due to the immense unpopularity of its own inbred and incompetent ruling family) - A Hanoverian regionalist party protesting annexation by Prussia would continue into the 20th century. And there were misgivings about just how much power Prussia wielded within the new state, especially about Bismarck leading both governments at once.
Feelings on leaving Austria out entirely were probably much more mixed - the idea was certainly not what you'd call "popular", but the issue had festered for 20-odd years and there was no easy alternative solution. More of a case of people accepting the seemingly inevitable.
Of course, in 1866 it was the "North German Federation" as yet, not the "German Empire". Prussian dominance would be checked to a degree by the inclusion of Bavaria etc, but in 1866 just *how* short an episode the North German Federation would prove could not be foreseen.

[Platypus]

Michaelis, and now i'm going to stop voting until I know who the majority of the remaining chancellors are.

[big bad fab]

Michaelis, and now i'm going to stop voting until I know who the majority of the remaining chancellors are.

Do you mean you need some time to read on them ?

[big bad fab]

Michaelis is down after round six.

ROUND SEVEN IS OPEN

I vote for Bethmann-Hollweg.
Sure, more moderate than Hindenburg and Ludendorff, but, still, WWI chancellor.

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Maximilian von Baden

Erich Eyck isn't too bad on Bethmann-Hollweg, and considering how much of a Democrat and monarchy-hater he was, that must mean something.

[big bad fab]

Maximilian von Baden

Erich Eyck isn't too bad on Bethmann-Hollweg, and considering how much of a Democrat and monarchy-hater he was, that must mean something.

You're right and we are here in periods on which my knowledge is weak.

On the other hand, Maximilian von Baden gathered ministers from all parties, IIRC. So, not too bad considering the edge on which Germany was at the time.
And he didn't contribute to the myth of the "knife stabbing in the back" (or whatever the English equivalent for "le coup de poignard dans le dos").

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Maximilian von Baden

Erich Eyck isn't too bad on Bethmann-Hollweg, and considering how much of a Democrat and monarchy-hater he was, that must mean something.

You're right and we are here in periods on which my knowledge is weak.

Oh, Bethmann-Hollweg isn't a Saint, far from it. All World War I chancellors sucked, and their power was extremely limited thanks to the Supreme Command's quasi-dictatorship.

[Hans-im-Glück]

Bernhard von Bülow

I think he destroys all relations to the other European powers.

[GMantis]

Otto von Bismarck

[minionofmidas]

Bismarck

[big bad fab]

Bismarck is out !
With 2 votes out of 5... OMG, quite difficult to grasp the attention of forumers...

ROUND EIGHT IS OPEN.

And I vote for Bethmann-Hollweg.

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Georg von Hertling

[Hans-im-Glück]

Bernhard von Bülow

[minionofmidas]

VICTORY!

Leo von Caprivi

[big bad fab]

I'm afraid we will face a 1-1-1-1-1 result...
Please send PM to other forumers... we need voters !

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I'm perfectly ready to change my vote if a 1-1-1-1-1 tie arises.

[big bad fab]

I'm perfectly ready to change my vote if a 1-1-1-1-1 tie arises.

We'll see, let's wait for the 24 hours.

In this tiny Survivor, I don't want to break a tie myself (I intend to do a far bigger Survivor and one with many likely voters... there, I will break ties myself !).

[Nhoj]

Theobald von Bethmann-Hollweg
ill break the tie for you.

[big bad fab]

Bethmann-Hollweg was finally ousted during round eight.
(I must say I have NOT sent a message to our dear tie-breaker ! In fact, I only wrote to Old Europe, as he's in Germany, just to remind him of our Survivor).

ROUND NINE IS OPEN

And I vote for Bülow.

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Bernhard von Bülow

[Hans-im-Glück]

Bernhard von Bülow

[Middle-aged Europe]

Max von Baden

[big bad fab]

Bülow is out.

ROUND TEN IS OPEN

And I vote for Hohenlohe.

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Chlodwig zu Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst