GERMAN CHANCELLORS SURVIVOR- winner: Willy BRANDT, over Adenauer !

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1. Otto von Bismarck (1867-1890) eliminated round seven
2. Leo von Caprivi (1890-1894) eliminated round eleven
3. Chlodwig zu Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst (1894-1900) eliminated round ten
4. Bernhard von Bülow (1900-1909) eliminated round nine
5. Theobald von Bethmann-Hollweg (1909-1917) eliminated round eight
6. Georg Michaelis (1917) eliminated round six
7. Georg von Hertling (1917-1918) eliminated round fourteen
8. Maximilian von Baden (1918) eliminated round fifteen
9. Friedrich Ebert (1918-1919) eliminated round twenty-six
10. Philipp Scheidemann (1919) eliminated round thirty
11. Gustav Bauer (1919-1920) eliminated round seventeen
12. Hermann Müller (1920 and 1928-1930) eliminated round nineteen
13. Konstantin Fehrenbach (1920-1921) eliminated round twenty-three
14. Joseph Wirth (1921-1922) eliminated round twenty-seven
15. Wilhelm Cuno (1922-1923) eliminated round thirteen
16. Gustav Stresemann (1923) eliminated round twenty-four
17. Wilhelm Marx (1923-1925 and 1926-1928) eliminated round thirty-one
18. Hans Luther (1925-1926) eliminated round twelve
19. Heinrich Brüning (1930-1932) eliminated round sixteen
20. Franz von Papen (1932) eliminated round four
21. Kurt von Schleicher (1932-1933) eliminated round five
22. Adolf Hitler (1933-1945) eliminated round one
23. Joseph Goebbels (1945) eliminated round two
24. Lutz Schwerin von Krosigk (1945) eliminated round three
25. Konrad Adenauer (1949-1963) eliminated round thirty-two
26. Ludwig Erhard (1963-1966) eliminated round twenty-two
27. Kurt Georg Kiesinger (1966-1969) eliminated round eighteen
Winner28. Willy Brandt (1969-1974)
Winner29. Walter Scheel (1974) eliminated round twenty-one
30. Helmut Schmidt (1974-1982) eliminated round twenty-nine
31. Helmut Kohl (1982-1998) eliminated round twenty
32. Gerhard Schröder (1998-2005) eliminated round twenty-five
33. Angela Merkel (2005- ?) eliminated round twenty-eight

Results :
round one: Hitler 9, Bismarck 1
round two: Goebbels 8, Bismarck 1, Scheel 1, Merkel 1
round three: Krosigk 4, Bismarck 2, Schleicher 2, Merkel 1
round four: Papen 3, Bismarck 2, Schleicher 2
round five: Schleicher 4, Bismarck 1, Michaelis 1
round six: Michaelis 4, Bismarck 2, Erhard 1
round seven: Bismarck 2, Bülow 1, Bethmann-Hollweg 1, von Baden 1
round eight: Bethmann-Hollweg 2, Bülow 1, Caprivi 1, Hertling 1
round nine: Bülow 3, von Baden 1, Hohenlohe 1
round ten: Hohenlohe 3, Caprivi 2, Luther 1
round eleven: Caprivi 5, Luther 1
round twelve: Luther 3, Cuno 2
round thirteen: Cuno 4, Hertling 3
round fourteen: Hertling 8, Cuno 1 (invalid)
round fifteen: von Baden 4, Bauer 1, Müller 1, Erhard 1, Stresemann 1
round sixteen: Brüning 5, Bauer 4, Erhard 2
round seventeen: Bauer 3, Erhard 1, Kohl 1
round eighteen: Kiesinger 3, Kohl 2, Müller 1, Stresemann 1
round nineteen: Müller 4, Erhard 3, Stresemann 1
round twenty: Kohl 5, Schröder 2
round twenty-one: Scheel 9, Schmidt 1
round twenty-two: Erhard 6, Schröder 4, Schmidt 1
round twenty-three: Fehrenbach 3, Schröder 1, Stresemann 1
round twenty-four: Stresemann 5, Schröder 1
round twenty-five: Schröder 5, Wirth 3, Ebert 1, Merkel 1
round twenty-six: Ebert 3, Wirth 2, Merkel 1, Schmidt 1
round twenty-seven: Wirth 6, Schmidt 4, Merkel 1
round twenty-eight: Merkel 7, Schmidt 3
round twenty-nine: Schmidt 5, Brandt 1, Marx 1, Scheidemann 1
round thirty: Scheidemann 5, Marx 2, Adenauer 2
round thirty-one: Marx 4, Adenauer 3
round thirty-two: Adenauer 10, Brandt 8
winner: Brandt

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Yep, Hitler hasn't received 100 % in round one....
See, Lief, nothing is absolutely sure

Anyway, without any surprise for this round:
Goebbels

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Please please please keep it in one thread, Filliatre.

Why not, but what's the problem ? Does it take too much space and push other threads on the 2nd page too quickly ? Or do you want votes' "history" in the same thread ?
Looking forward to your answer !

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Walter Scheel, because he was no Chancellor.

(There's no formal position of "Acting chancellor" in Germany and almost nobody in Germany would claim that Scheel was Chancellor once. He was foreign minister and vice chancellor and for a few days during his term there wasn't a Chancellor, so he was the highest-ranking government official for this period of time. If we pursue the nitpicking even further: Scheel wasn't acting chancellor, he was acting head of government. You're Chancellor if you're elected by the Bundestag. No election, no Chancellor. )

True, there isn't any "acting chancellor", but article 69 of German Basic Law is about the deputy federal Chancellor and about the fact that the president is able to ask a minister to take care of business during a vacancy. Hasn't Scheel been asked to rule the transition ?

One more evidence that it's better to ask everyone before launching a Survivor which is more than a list completely decided only by its "creator"...

Anyway, I won't change the list now and, as I've said before, Scheidemann hadn't the title of Chancellor.
And I may add that Krosigk refused to hold the title of Chancellor of the Reich, but it was pointless since he acted during only a few days and his government wasn't agreed by the Allies.

So let's keep those 3 exceptions, in one way or another.

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Results of round two: Goebbels is out, but not with all the votes.

ROUND THREE IS OPEN

And I vote for Krosigk,

judged at Nuremberg, not exactly a nice guy, another hypocritical man, who wasn't a member of the NSDAP, but who was a real supporter and an actor.

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Krosigk fell in round 3.

ROUND FOUR IS OPEN

And I vote fo Franz von Papen,

a bad conservative, one of those who paved the way for Hitler.

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Krosigk fell in round 2.

ROUND THREE IS OPEN

And I vote fo Franz von Papen,

a bad conservative, one of those who paved the way for Hitler.

Four, actually.

I second your vote for Franz von Papen. An horrible piece of crap.

I third.

Thanks guys.
Yep, I don't sleep enough these times...
Fixed.

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I'm surprised about votes on Bismarck so early.

He was, granted, a Prussian militarist. And his images with his helmet aren't very smiling

But, on the other hand, a sort of small Welfare State was born under his rule in Germany.
Republican France, enlightened Italy, sophisticated Britain came later on this path. And eternal Russia never.

As for Schleicher, he was the last attempt to avoid Hitler. Sure, not a perfect democrat, but different from Papen, who supported Hitler and took a part in his regime, at least in the beginning.

Of course, it's fine to have some suspense after the 3 obvious Nazis or proxies !

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Von Papen out after round four, but with only a plurality of votes. Granted, our electorate is tinier and tinier... Please vote, guys !

ROUND FIVE IS OPEN

Now that Papen is out and even if some WWI chancellors are "tempting" choices, I vote for

Kurt von Schleicher

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Schleicher is out after round five.

ROUND SIX IS OPEN

I vote for Michaelis.

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Michaelis, and now i'm going to stop voting until I know who the majority of the remaining chancellors are.

Do you mean you need some time to read on them ?

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Michaelis is down after round six.

ROUND SEVEN IS OPEN

I vote for Bethmann-Hollweg.
Sure, more moderate than Hindenburg and Ludendorff, but, still, WWI chancellor.

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Maximilian von Baden

Erich Eyck isn't too bad on Bethmann-Hollweg, and considering how much of a Democrat and monarchy-hater he was, that must mean something.

You're right and we are here in periods on which my knowledge is weak.

On the other hand, Maximilian von Baden gathered ministers from all parties, IIRC. So, not too bad considering the edge on which Germany was at the time.
And he didn't contribute to the myth of the "knife stabbing in the back" (or whatever the English equivalent for "le coup de poignard dans le dos").

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Bismarck is out !
With 2 votes out of 5... OMG, quite difficult to grasp the attention of forumers...

ROUND EIGHT IS OPEN.

And I vote for Bethmann-Hollweg.

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I'm afraid we will face a 1-1-1-1-1 result...
Please send PM to other forumers... we need voters !

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I'm perfectly ready to change my vote if a 1-1-1-1-1 tie arises.

We'll see, let's wait for the 24 hours.

In this tiny Survivor, I don't want to break a tie myself (I intend to do a far bigger Survivor and one with many likely voters... there, I will break ties myself !).

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Bethmann-Hollweg was finally ousted during round eight.
(I must say I have NOT sent a message to our dear tie-breaker ! In fact, I only wrote to Old Europe, as he's in Germany, just to remind him of our Survivor).

ROUND NINE IS OPEN

And I vote for Bülow.

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Bülow is out.

ROUND TEN IS OPEN

And I vote for Hohenlohe.

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Prinz Hohenlohe is out.

ROUND ELEVEN IS OPEN

And, without any surprise, I vote for Caprivi.

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Caprivi Strip

By grasping this territory inside the German South-West of Africa, Caprivi appears to be on par with Stalin in fine territorial cutting... (see Ferghana)

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Caprivi is out and nearly all "Kaiserish" chancellors are down.

ROUND TWELVE IS OPEN
(with a little delay due to my elder son's birthday... 9 years old !)

Hertling is tempting in order to finish all those old chancellors, but Hans-im-Glück is right: Luther was an ambassador of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1937.

So, I vote for Luther.

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Hertling is tempting in order to finish all those old chancellors, but Hans-im-Glück is right: Luther was an ambassador of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1937.

So, I vote for Luther.

I vote also for Hans Luther

Not only that he was an ambassador for the Nazi. In his chancellorship he makes many wrong decisions. Maybe he was a good president of the Reichsbank, but as chancellor a terrible politician.

Hertling and Cuno are next on my list !
I'm eager to come to "fine" (or less bad) Weimar and modern chancellors.

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Luther is down, but Cuno not far behind (oh, well, we were only five to vote...)

ROUND THIRTEEN IS OPEN

Herting, Cuno, Hertling, Cuno,... mmmmh

Let's have some suspense: I vote for Hertling.

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Bump
(no, there isn't any chancellor named Horst von Bump... that's just we don't have enough voters)

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Guys, feel free to PM some other forumers, so that we can resolve our tie: I prefer it to be resolved by more voters, even though I'm OK to break it if we can't add more of them.

EDIT: I've just PMed Old Europe, as he's German, Hughento as he promised to vote again one day, and most recent voters: Jarl, Edu and Nhoj.