Canadian federal polling division files

[the506]

Sounds like you're calling for a Canadian version of this website

Good idea...maybe something between this site and Adam Carr's Australian one. We could even do provincial elections...

I'm excited!

[Hatman 🍁]

Indeed it's a cool idea. Maybe someone with web powers can help start it?

[Smid]

This stuff is just awesome! It would be great if we could get some sort of dedicated website for it. I've got some reasonable maps for the Victorian state elections over here if you wanted to give it a more international flavour.

[the506]

I'm going to try and register the election-atlas.ca domain.

My database and web design skills aren't that great (I'm still stuck on ca-1995 HTML), so someone else might need to do that, plus between a new job (likely) and my other big mapping project ( http://www.the506.com/nflmaps ) both starting up soon, I'm not sure how much time I'll be able to devote. Let's see if there's anyone else not on this site who might be able to contribute.

[Хahar 🤔]

I really like this site's presentation of maps, though I'm not sure how far back we have riding maps.

[Hash]

Once said site is complete, it should merge with Pundits' Guide.

[Hatman 🍁]

I really like this site's presentation of maps, though I'm not sure how far back we have riding maps.

Riding maps could be made, like the ones I was doing for Ontario. We have the descriptions, all we need is people willing to make the maps.

[cp]

Hey 506, that Guelph map with Google Earth is *exactly* what I was hoping for. There's  a problem with the colour scheme, though. The polling place winners are shaded too lightly, which makes it difficult to glean the visual information. It's especially problematic with the Green Party because of all the greenery in the image Really nice job, though!

[Хahar 🤔]

Google Maps overlays provide too much unnecessary data, IMO.

[deansherratt]

I am happy to introduce myself to the Board. I have studied Canadian elections since the early 1970s...I whetted my interest with the 1971 Brant By-election .

Up to now, I have done maps literally by hand and I am trying to figure out how to post some of them to induce some conversation. I have done some deep history, starting with the 1926 federal election for the two member riding of Ottawa...and have taken that forward to Ottawa Centre for 2008.

One distinction I have is that I base my map colours on winning margin, rather than % of Party vote. For example, if the Conservatives win a poll, it will be marked with some tone of blue...I then go to the winning margin over the number two party to determine that tone of colour.

Cheers!

[Хahar 🤔]

Excellent! Welcome!

[deansherratt]

Here is my first effort...Don Valley West 2007 provincial. John Tory versus Kathleen Wynne

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3109167&id=612797173

I'm still trying to figure out how to paste an image in the message, but I have at least created a link to the riding map...

[deansherratt]

Here is another one. Thornhill has both a very large Jewish population as well as Italian. Historically neither are very good territory for the Conservatives, especially in a bad year. However, this is one riding where support for Jewish Schools rang very true for the PCs...In many Jewish polls, the Conservative vote climbed to 80%+

Here is a link to my map...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3109168&id=612797173&ref=nf

[Hatman 🍁]

Neither map is finished?

Anyways, you have poll maps dating back to 1924? That would be really interesting to see, especially since I live in Ottawa Centre.

[deansherratt]

Both maps are finished. I do not colour in industrialized areas where no one lives.

I actually have maps just of the Glebe (in Ottawa Centre/Ottawa West & Carleton/Ottawa) back to 1898...The whole riding from 1926 onwards (except for 1930).

An interesting map is the Temperance Plebisite for 1924.

Here are the poll results for the Glebe...

The Glebe

      PC/C       Lib      NDP/CCF   Other

2008 F      1,359 (20.5) 1,920 (28.9)   2,612 (39.3)    GP 748 (11.3)
2007 P      1,096 (17.1) 2,292 (35.   2,173 (33.9)    GP 843 (13.2)
2006F      1,184 (20.3) 1,609 (27.6)   2,261 (38.    GP 768 (13.3)
2004F           958 (16.2) 1,917 (34.2)   2,451 (41.5)     GP 587 (9.9)   
2003P                            966 (19.0) 2,463 (48.4)   1,170 (23.0)    GP 494 (9.6)
2000F                           836 (14. 1,953 (34.5)         1,837 (32.5)            A 796 (14.1)
1999P        1,439 (28.1) 2,056 (40.2)         1,450 (28.3)         GP 175 (3.4)
1997F         1,196 (19.6) 2,547 (41.   1,828 (30.0)            R 522 (8.6)
1995P         1,199 (24. 1,955 (40.4)   1,595 (33.0)           GP 87 (1.
1993F                           848 (12.9) 2,964 (45.2)   1,965 (29.9)            R 539 (8.2)
1990P                           648 (12.4) 1,926 (36.   2,470 (47.2)         GP 186 (3.6)
1988F         2,074 (30.1) 1,971 (28.6)   2,842 (41.3)
1987P                           684 (13.5) 2,282 (45.2)   2,085 (41.3)
1985P         1,788 (33.5) 1,375 (25.   2,171 (40.7)
1984F         2,343 (33. 1,717 (24.   2,865 (41.4)
1981P         2,221 (45.5) 1,001 (20.5)   1,661 (34.0)
1980F         2,744 (41.6) 2,435 (36.9)   1,413 (21.5)
1979F         3,003 (42.3) 2,337 (32.9)   1,759 (24.
1978FB                     3,153 (51. 1,199 (19.7)   1,736 (28.5)
1977P         2,952 (49.0)    926 (15.4)   2,147 (35.6)
1975P         2,671 (44.1) 1,011 (16.7)   2,379 (39.3)
1974F         3,167 (44. 2,596 (36.   1,299 (18.4)
1972F         3,426 (43. 2,488 (31.   1,916 (24.4)
1971P         3,603 (54.6) 1,341 (20.3)   1,650 (25.1)
1968F         2,999 (41.5) 3,668 (50.     558 (7.7)
1967P         2,848 (55.7) 1,829 (35.     436 (8.5)
1965F         3,103 (47.1) 2,798 (42.4)     692 (10.5)
1963P         3,510 (63.9) 1,653 (30.1)     327 (6.0)
1963F         3,570 (47. 3,554 (47.6)     346 (4.6)
1962F         4,109 (55.9) 2,894 (39.4)     345 (4.7)
1959P         3,350 (62.0) 1,825 (33.     224 (4.2)
1958F         5,565 (67.4) 2,438 (29.5)     253 (3.1)
1957F         4,732 (61.3) 2,742 (35.5)     250 (3.2)
1955P         3,663 (63.9) 1,859 (32.4)     209 (3.6)
1953F         4,254 (56.2) 3,100 (41.0)     216 (2.   
1951P         4,537 (68.9) 1,538 (23.4)     510 (7.7)
1949F         4,496 (51.3) 3,748 (42.     513 (5.9)
1948P         4,005 (64. 1,361 (22.0)     815 (13.2)
1945F         4,774 (58.0) 2,815 (34.2)     527 (6.4)
1945P         5,247 (69.9) 1,503 (20.0)        761 (10.1)
1943P         2,703 (55.7) 1,341 (27.5)     812 (16.7)   
1940F         3,487 (47.1) 3,921 (52.9)     -
1937P         3,884 (60.1) 2,577 (39.9)     -
1935F         3,227 (44.1) 2,805 (38.3)     -        R 1,278(17.5)
1934P         3,396 (53.0) 2,674 (41.     334 (5.2)
1930F        3,585 (60.7) 2,322 (39.3)     -
1929P        accl
1926P         2,381 (52.3) 2,173 (47.7)     -
1926F         3,448 (65.0) 1,854 (35.0)     -    
1925F         3,349 (67.3) 1,630 (32.7)     -
1923P                           998 (38.1) 1,121 (42.      180 (LB) 202 (IC) 121 (I)
1921F         2,428 (55.0) 1,146 (26.0)     837 (PROG) (19.0)
1919P         1,711 (45.5)    767 (20.4)     744 (19. LAB 540 (14.4) I
1917F         2,087 (77.1)   621 (22.9)
1914P                           681 (53.4)     595 (46.6) 
1911P                           538 (72.6)     203 (27.4)
1911F                           715 (63.     405 (36.2)
1910FB                          391 (55.6)     312 (44.4)
1908F                           581 (61.9)     358 (38.1)
1908P                           508 (64.1)     285 (35.9)
1905P             368 (59.7)     248 (40.3)
1904F          296 (56.2)     231 (43.
1902P         283 (68.5)     130 (31.5)
1900F         226 (66.1)     116 (33.9)
1898P         127 (61.1)      81 (38.9)

[deansherratt]

My column macros obviously fell apart...

[Hatman 🍁]

Maps would be cool. And surprising that the Glebe voted Liberal in 2007. Will Murray only lost the riding by 5%, and the Glebe is usually strong NDP territory.

[Smid]

Hey Dean, checked out your maps on Facebook there that you linked to - they looked fantastic! Welcome to the Forum!

To post an image from an external site, you put "[img ]" at the start (minus the space), followed by the link, followed by "[/img ]" (again, minus the space).

You can also upload pictures into the gallery on the Forum here and post them from there. See up the top, just below your personal messages, second button on the right hand side? That links through to the gallery and it should be fairly self-explanatory from there. Any questions, the message board entitled "The Atlas" has a child board "How To" where you can ask questions.

[deansherratt]

These are an interesting series of duo maps, except for the first which shows the 2000 results (with PC and Alliance votes combined). The 2004, 2006 and 2008 maps are all "duo" The first shows results by graduated winning margins based only on the election day polls. The second folds in the results of the advance polls (which went more heavily Conservative in each case than votes cast on election day) and so the second map for each election is "bluer" than the first.

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=128311&id=612797173&saved#/album.php?aid=128311&id=612797173

[deansherratt]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3109167&id=612797173

To SoFA EarlAW...See above link to my map showing 2007 results for Ottawa Centre.  It should be noted that this was a Liberal year though a popular Liberal MPP (Richard Patten) retired so the NDP hoped to have a chance to take the riding.

Both ran rather tightly across the riding, the results everywhere were close. In general the NDP ran better in rental polls while the Liberals ran best in home owners polls.

The NDP often runs well in the Glebe as you have noted. Again however, they run better in the east side of the Glebe which has more rental units and row housing than the west side and the "Avenues" - streets like Glebe, First Avenue, Clemow and Powell which are all very high income.

[the506]

Nice maps!!!

Where did you get the older polling maps? I'd love to incorporate this into the website...

[deansherratt]

A protracted labour of love. First, Elections Canada for a longtime kept returning officer's working files from 1935 onwards.  Very fortunately, I was on site when they decided to move all these files to the Archives. Archives originally decided to keep a few as samples and throw out everything else but I convinced them that many of these files also contained poll maps (in addition to poll descriptions in the form of "grant of polls" already microfilmed by Archives).

Thus the poll maps were saved for some elections from 1935 onwards, but not all.

Next, I noticed that earlier elections often seemed to follow what I consequently found to be municipal poll boundaries. Armed with this, I was able to find their grants of poll for elections in the 1920s...

Now drawing maps from a poll description is no fun and very labour intensive. But I did it for the 1926 federal and the 1924 provincial temperance plebiscite. I then one by one completed all the Ottawa West (as it was then known) maps from 1935-1965 and then Ottawa Centre thereafter. 

I have these in a paper collection of hand-coloured maps. I can probably engage my wife (who is a good photographer) and take pictures of them and then scan them...thereafter posting them here once I get the hang of things. 

I also created a file for both federal and provincial election results by "neighbourhood" from 1900 and 1898 respectively. Early neighbourhods were really just the Ottawa City Wards but as the city grew, I created more that seemed distinctive, like the Glebe, Ottawa South, Sandy Hill, the By Ward, Elmdale, Alta Vista, Riverside Park etc...These I can probably post in the results section...They are current to 2008.

[Hatman 🍁]

Wow!

I grew up in Ottawa South, and made those maps on Wikipedia, so I am very familiar with the riding. (plus I've worked on 3 campaigns in the riding, most recently as voter contact). I wonder how you got the "fold in" data from advanced polls?

I'm also somewhat familiar with Ottawa Centre, as I live there. I'm in Centretown, and I see the area voted strongly NDP in the last provincial election. But, I heard Will Murray was a lousy candidate, which is probably why he lost. An open seat with a federal NDP member, the riding should have fallen to us. Oh well.

Keep the maps coming. I'd rather they were in digital format, but I can't complain too much.

[deansherratt]

My maps will come as fast as I can either load them to the site (not yet possible with my feeble tech knowledge) or place in a website where I can link to them (that I have figured out!).

It is thoroughly enjoyable to see the work and read the comments of fellow fanatics like myself.

It is easy reading between the lines or by phrases much less subtle that we have differing political affiliations here. I myself am as Tory as they come but wish to assure all that my affiliations and partisanship will drop from me as the softest fleece as I engage you all in examining this wondrous combination of science and artistry!

[Hatman 🍁]

I don't mind if your a tory, as long as you keep the maps up!

I'll give you instructions for posting maps:

1) Click on "gallery" in the top right corner of the page
2) Click on "Election Maps - International"
3) Scroll down to the bottom once the maps have finished loading. Click on "add a picture"
4) Click on "browse..." and find the file in your computer
5) Once you have found the file, select it and fill in the other boxes as you see fit
6) When you're done, click on "add picture"
7) At this point, your image should now be in the gallery. Go back to the gallery and find it (should be at the very top left). Click on it. It should get bigger.
Put your mouse over the image and click the right button on it. Select "copy image location".
9) Come back to this thread and post the map. Right click once again and select "paste". Then put  after it.