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Question: All things considered do you approve or disapprove how these Presidents performed in office?
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Truman-Approve
 
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Eisenhower-Approve
 
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Eisenhower-Disapprove
 
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Kennedy-Approve
 
#6
Kennedy-Disapprove
 
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Johnson-Approve
 
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Johnson-Disapprove
 
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Nixon-Approve
 
#10
Nixon-Disapprove
 
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Ford-Approve
 
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Ford-Disapprove
 
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Carter-Approve
 
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Carter-Disapprove
 
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Reagan Approve
 
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Reagan-Disapprove
 
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Bush 41-Approve
 
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Bush 41-Disapprove
 
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Clinton-Approve
 
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Clinton-Disapprove
 
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Bush 43-Approve
 
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Bush 43-Disapprove
 
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« on: June 30, 2009, 07:05:49 PM »

All things considered do you approve or disapprove how these Presidents performed in office?
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2009, 07:58:03 PM »

Approve for all except Carter, Reagan, and Bush 43.
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2009, 09:47:28 PM »

Disapprove of all except for LBJ; Vietnam should rule even him out, but I don't want to look too cynical. Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2009, 10:46:00 PM »

Truman: ✓
Eisenhower: ✓
Kennedy: ✓
Johnson: ✓
Nixon: X
Ford: X
Carter: ✓
Reagan: X
Bush: ✓
Clinton: ✓
Bush: X
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2009, 10:53:08 PM »

Truman: Disapprove
Eisenhower: Approve
Kennedy: Disapprove
Johnson: Disapprove
Nixon: Disapprove
Ford: Approve
Carter: Disapprove
Reagan: Approve
Bush 41: Approve
Clinton: Approve
Bush 43: Disapprove
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2009, 11:22:02 PM »

Truman-Approve         
Eisenhower-Approve         
Kennedy-Approve         
Johnson-Disapprove         
Nixon-Disapprove         
Ford-Approve         
Carter-Disapprove         
Reagan Approve         
Bush 41-Disapprove         
Clinton-Disapprove         
Bush 43-Disapprove         
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2009, 11:28:13 PM »

Disapprove of all of them. Sic Semper Tyrannis.
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2009, 11:30:27 PM »

Disapprove of all of them. Sic Semper Tyrannis.

I'm surprised you didn't approve of Reagan.

This is the second thing I've seen in the past 20 seconds that proves the LP will never be a serious, mainstream party. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2009, 11:48:03 PM »

Truman-Approve
Eisenhower-Approve
Kennedy-Approve
Johnson-Approve
Nixon-Disapprove
Ford-Disapprove
Reagan-Disapprove
Bush-Disapprove
Clinton-Disapprove
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2009, 12:00:57 AM »
« Edited: July 01, 2009, 12:19:44 AM by Mint »

Unfortunately Eisenhower was probably our last truly decent President. Maybe Kennedy too although he made a lot of boneheaded moves Foreign Policy wise and he did have his share of idiotic economic proposals (sort of like Johnson-lite). Obviously I agree with a lot of Reagan's policies but looking at the deficits, the long list of scandals and the S&L meltdown at the end of his term I find it hard to really say 'approve.' On the whole we've had fairly terrible leaders the last fifty or so years.
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2009, 12:21:39 AM »

Disapprove of all of them. Sic Semper Tyrannis.

I'm surprised you didn't approve of Reagan.

This is the second thing I've seen in the past 20 seconds that proves the LP will never be a serious, mainstream party. Tongue

Why should I approve of someone who jacked up the national debt, escalated the Drug War, and intervened in Grenada, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Lebanon, and a ton of other countries, among his crimes?
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2009, 01:10:12 AM »

Truman - Approve
Eisenhower - (narrowly) Approve
Kennedy - Approve
Johnson - Disapprove
Nixon - (narrowly) Approve
Ford - Approve
Carter - Disapprove
Reagan - Approve
Bush - Approve
Clinton - Disapprove
Bush - Disapprove
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2009, 06:07:28 AM »

Truman: approve
Eisenhower: approve
Kennedy: approve
Johnson: disapprove
Nixon: disapprove
Ford: approve
Carter: disapprove
Reagan: disapprove
Bush: approve
Clinton: approve
Bush II: disapprove
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2009, 06:12:08 AM »

I ran out of vote options before I came to Clinton.

Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson are all complex presidencies that I both approve and disapprove of (on different counts). Ford and Carter I neither approve or particularly disapprove of. Nixon, Reagan and the elder Bush got disapprovals.
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2009, 07:06:07 AM »

All got approvals except Bush 43 and Bush 41.
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« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2009, 08:12:29 AM »

Truman: ✓
Eisenhower: ✓
Kennedy: ✓
Johnson: ✓
Nixon: X
Ford: X
Carter: ✓
Reagan: X
Bush: ✓
Clinton: ✓
Bush: X

My list precisely, aside from the first Bush.
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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2009, 03:37:19 PM »

Truman
Eisenhower
Kennedy
Johnson
Nixon
Ford
Carter
Reagan
Bush I
Clinton
Bush II
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2009, 04:04:56 PM »

Approve all except Nixon, Reagan, Bushes.
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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2009, 06:30:29 PM »

Truman: Disapprove (Korea)
Eisenhower: Disapprove (highway system, Military Keneysianism)
Kennedy: Narrow approve (tax cuts and space program; points off for Bay of Pigs)
Johnson: Narrow approve (for Voting Rights Act; massive points off for Vietnam and domestic suppression)
Nixon: Massive disapprove (self-explanatory)
Ford: Neutral
Carter: Approve (we tend to forget that he led the way in deregulation)
Reagan: Massive disapprove
Bush I: Neutral-to-narrow-disapprove
Clinton: Narrow approve (for his economic policies and promotion of the Internet; points off for Iraq and Kosovo)
Bush II: Massive disapprove
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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2009, 06:32:51 PM »

I would say, looking at the Reagan result, that this is all the proof one needs that this forum doesn't even come close to matching the general population.
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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2009, 06:36:50 PM »

I would say, looking at the Reagan result, that this is all the proof one needs that this forum doesn't even come close to matching the general population.


Why? Reagan sold the libertarian movement down the river; only the idiot fusionists still believe that a tremendous expansion of the military, of the prison-industrial complex, and of the War on Drugs has anything remotely to do with freedom.
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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2009, 06:39:11 PM »

Truman: Disapprove (Korea)
Eisenhower: Disapprove (highway system, Military Keneysianism)
Kennedy: Narrow approve (tax cuts and space program; points off for Bay of Pigs)
Johnson: Narrow approve (for Voting Rights Act; massive points off for Vietnam and domestic suppression)
Nixon: Massive disapprove (self-explanatory)
Ford: Neutral
Carter: Approve (we tend to forget that he led the way in deregulation)
Reagan: Massive disapprove
Bush I: Neutral-to-narrow-disapprove
Clinton: Narrow approve (for his economic policies and promotion of the Internet; points off for Iraq and Kosovo)

Bush II: Massive disapprove

And you accused me of ideological gymnastics? ROFL
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« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2009, 11:31:24 PM »

Truman: Disapprove (Korea)
Eisenhower: Disapprove (highway system, Military Keneysianism)
Kennedy: Narrow approve (tax cuts and space program; points off for Bay of Pigs)
Johnson: Narrow approve (for Voting Rights Act; massive points off for Vietnam and domestic suppression)
Nixon: Massive disapprove (self-explanatory)
Ford: Neutral
Carter: Approve (we tend to forget that he led the way in deregulation)
Reagan: Massive disapprove
Bush I: Neutral-to-narrow-disapprove
Clinton: Narrow approve (for his economic policies and promotion of the Internet; points off for Iraq and Kosovo)

Bush II: Massive disapprove

And you accused me of ideological gymnastics? ROFL

Uh, yeah. Clinton's welfare reform led directly to the massive bull market of the late 90s, and no individual ought to be subject to a poll tax - or are your stupid-blinders strapped that tightly to your hollow little skull?
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2009, 12:37:16 AM »

Truman: ✓
Eisenhower: ✓
Kennedy: ✓
Johnson: ✓
Nixon: X
Ford: X
Carter: ✓
Reagan: X
Bush: ✓
Clinton: ✓
Bush: X

My list precisely, aside from the first Bush.
You guys actually approved of Clinton?
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2009, 12:49:05 AM »
« Edited: July 02, 2009, 01:06:55 AM by Mint »

Truman: Disapprove (Korea)
Eisenhower: Disapprove (highway system, Military Keneysianism)
Kennedy: Narrow approve (tax cuts and space program; points off for Bay of Pigs)
Johnson: Narrow approve (for Voting Rights Act; massive points off for Vietnam and domestic suppression)
Nixon: Massive disapprove (self-explanatory)
Ford: Neutral
Carter: Approve (we tend to forget that he led the way in deregulation)
Reagan: Massive disapprove
Bush I: Neutral-to-narrow-disapprove
Clinton: Narrow approve (for his economic policies and promotion of the Internet; points off for Iraq and Kosovo)

Bush II: Massive disapprove

And you accused me of ideological gymnastics? ROFL

Uh, yeah. Clinton's welfare reform led directly to the massive bull market of the late 90s, and no individual ought to be subject to a poll tax - or are your stupid-blinders strapped that tightly to your hollow little skull?

Get your facts straight before you talk down to me. Clinton talked a lot about reforming welfare, but essentially dragged his feet until he was forced to accept the GOP's (toned down) proposals. In fact one of his original budget proposals actually would have increased overall spending by about $15 billion by 1999 (check CBO figures for his initial plan if you don't believe me). Besides that there's also the issue of his tax hikes on just about everything from the top marginal rate to social security... The latter of which Congress has continually borrowed from, which coupled with the tax increases explains a lot of the surplus. None of that, let alone his foreign policy, you should approve of as a supposedly principled 'libertarian.' Now of course I give Clinton credit for the cuts to welfare he finally did make, NAFTA, and a host of other policies. But a lot of those were really just Republican ideas he co-opted after much of his original agenda wound up crashing and burning alongside the Democratic Congress by 1994.

But even putting all of that aside, how in the world can you claim to be libertarian then give Johnson the thumbs up after Urban Renewal,' the Great Society, and his horrendous foreign policy? Almost all the criticisms you could apply to Nixon extend to Johnson, and vice versa. And likewise, despite his own prejudices and coded racism Nixon did in fact press for affirmative action and accept continued desegregation while president too. To me it just seems like you're giving him the go-ahead because he has a D near his name.
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