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Landslide Lyndon
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« on: July 04, 2009, 04:19:16 PM »

The single fact that the media covered Sarah Palin as if she was a serious candidate makes them pro-McCain in my book.
If they had a shred of intelectual and profesional honesty they ought to declare, in no uncertain terms, what a joke her presence on the ticket was. 
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Landslide Lyndon
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2009, 12:37:35 AM »

The single fact that the media covered Sarah Palin as if she was a serious candidate makes them pro-McCain in my book.
If they had a shred of intelectual and profesional honesty they ought to declare, in no uncertain terms, what a joke her presence on the ticket was. 

They didn't judge her, they were neutral. They would be biased if they treated her as a joke, just as they would be if they treated her as the second coming of Reagan.

Why didn't they treat Biden as a joke. When he said FDR went on TV in 1929 to ease people about the depression. And no, don't cite his record. There are long standing politicians who are jokes.

The fact is, she was governor of a state for two years. Enough experience for the Presidency? P0robably not. Enough to be taken seriously as a VP nominee? Yeah. Don't forget, Obama was a Senator really for only a year before he started campaigning.

So, what you say is that if McCain, a 72-year old cancer survivor, chose a monkey for his running mate or a mentally unstable person, then the media should just sit back and report without comment.
Sorry but that's not my idea of the Fourth Estate. Palin showed quickly how unqualified she was and her refusal to give a press conference should raise red flags all over the place. To pretend otherwise was disingenuous and had nothing to do with journalistic integrity.

And your comparison with Biden is really hilarious. Biden was a well-known windbag. But nobody ever disputed the fact that he is a very intelligent man and a leading expert on foreign policy in the Senate.
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2009, 03:54:33 PM »

Sometimes I see posts by Coburn like that, and sometimes I see some that had actual thought in them... perhaps he's just forgetting to log back into his real account for the latter.

Maybe it's a side-effect of the double life he lives as a closeted gay man.
How come your gaydar didn't catch him?
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2009, 04:26:12 PM »


And your comparison with Biden is really hilarious. Biden was a well-known windbag. But nobody ever disputed the fact that he is a very intelligent man and a leading expert on foreign policy in the Senate.

You can't be serious.

A LOT of people thought he was far from intelligent, and questioned his foreign policy credentials.  Sure, he's been involved in foreign policy issues, how does that make him any kind of "expert"? 

"NO" on the Gulf War.
"YES" on the Iraq War.
"NO" on the surge.
Divide Iraq into 3 autonomous states. 

George W. Bush was involved in business for how many years, and no one would hail him as a "leading expert in business."  Give me a break.  He committed more gaffes than Palin during the '08 campaign, and had less of an excuse for them.

I'm sorry, but you have to change your avatar.  You cannot possibly label yourself an "Independent" while defending Joe Biden and calling him an "expert on foreign policy". 

I just fell off my chair.

The only bad decision I see is the Yes for the Iraq War, a transparenrtly political vote.

And you seem to be in the minority about his qualifications. His coleagues in the Senate, and the public at large, have a very different opinion. That's why his partition plan drew support even among Republicans.

I hope you didn't broke your hip.
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2009, 05:00:47 PM »


And your comparison with Biden is really hilarious. Biden was a well-known windbag. But nobody ever disputed the fact that he is a very intelligent man and a leading expert on foreign policy in the Senate.

You can't be serious.

A LOT of people thought he was far from intelligent, and questioned his foreign policy credentials.  Sure, he's been involved in foreign policy issues, how does that make him any kind of "expert"? 

"NO" on the Gulf War.
"YES" on the Iraq War.
"NO" on the surge.
Divide Iraq into 3 autonomous states. 

George W. Bush was involved in business for how many years, and no one would hail him as a "leading expert in business."  Give me a break.  He committed more gaffes than Palin during the '08 campaign, and had less of an excuse for them.

I'm sorry, but you have to change your avatar.  You cannot possibly label yourself an "Independent" while defending Joe Biden and calling him an "expert on foreign policy". 

I just fell off my chair.

The only bad decision I see is the Yes for the Iraq War, a transparenrtly political vote.

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And you seem to be in the minority of thinking the Gulf War and the "surge" were mistakes.  You're entitled to your opinions and all, but I'd take the judgment by the public over that by his colleagues in the Senate.  That's 3 of the most important foreign policy votes of the last 20 years that your "foreign policy expert" has been on the wrong side of.


"NO" on the Gulf War.
"YES" on the Iraq War.
"NO" on the surge.
Divide Iraq into 3 autonomous states. 

I would have voted "NO" on all of them. Congratulations for selling out once again. I hope you got a high price for it.

..says the so-called Libertarian who voted for the ticket of "spreading the wealth around" and "paying taxes = patriotism".

I thought the conservative position was to avoid foreign entaglements. But it seems now that the neocons and their admirers have become more Wilsonian than Wilson himself ever was.

And I fail to see how saying that paying your taxes is patriotic, is somehow a gaffe. Unless of course you advocate tax evasion.
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