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pbrower2a
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« on: July 03, 2009, 08:55:48 PM »

To clarify I'm not one of those hacks who constantly whine about the "liberal media" but I do think that the media's unprecedented protection of Obama on every news outlet except Fox (which I do admit is very anti-Obama) was just as crucial to his victory as the financial meltdown.

You just contradicted yourself in two clauses in one sentence. You get slight credit for recognizing the obvious: that FoX "News" is biased against anything or anyone  liberal (and not only Obama) unless to spread dissent among liberals.

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Not since at least Ronald Reagan have we had a politician at so high a level so adept at  leading the media in the direction that he wants. I remember back in the 1990s when he was a State legislator (!) that Tom Brokaw said to the effect "watch this guy; he is about as slick a politician as there is."

People don't let the media direct them ; they choose media that they find comforting to their core beliefs.
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pbrower2a
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2009, 04:18:04 PM »

The media is are generally not as powerful as they're often made out to be. From 2001 to 2005 or 06, they were biased towards the GOP. What eventually made them switch over to a Democratic bias from 2006 until the stimulus bill debate this February, was Bush's increasing unpopularity. They are favorable to Obama now, but just wait until the honeymoon ends. In the 2008 campaign, they were almost always biased towards whichever candidates were currently ahead. In other words, they're generally reactive. Reporters react to events and attempt to analyze and justify events retrospectively. The idea that a certain politician is currently winning or that a certain party is currently in the majority due simply to chance, rather than some grand narrative of truth, is not appealing from the standpoint of a media analyst. If they start to believe their own justifications, then they become biased.

Those looking to the media to unlock the key of future elections are looking in the wrong place. The wisest words in politics belong to the late Harold MacMillan. When asked what represented the greatest challenge for a statesman, MacMillan replied, "Events, my dear boy, events."

You've got it. The media might elevate a turkey on occasion but they can't rescue one. The politicians can manipulate media to an extent, but that goes only so far. The media jump on scandals, especially those involving the two subjects that most adults understand (sex and money).  They can easily explain adultery, salacious e-mails, and large quantities of cash that change hands or appear in a freezer. They can relate new unemployment (typically from highly-visible mass layoffs) and death tolls from wars.

They are more likely to catch adultery than deceit about military activities because the former is more easily related than the latter. Liberal journalists would have loved to have exposed deceit and shady dealings by Dubya (the shady dealings including his economic priorities that ultimately led to the  real estate/subprime lending meltdown) because such was more subtle than some politician like Mark Foley getting caught sending salacious e-mails to underage boys, William Jefferson being found with thousands of dollars of cash in a freezer, or Mark Sanford "disappearing" only to have gone to Argentina for (details presumed if not stated).   

Journalists aren't that different from the rest of us. They can fall for the bandwagon effect, and if the "tea party" protests became huge, then they would start reporting them as a major trend of dissent with Obama. They catch rhetorical folly only if it is so blatant as when it comes so obviously from someone like Sarah Palin (as when it appears in dependent and independent clauses in the same sentence).
   
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2009, 06:36:47 PM »


Well the democRATs had a monkey AND a mentally unstable person on their ticket and the media got a massive hard on for them.  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Soulless rhetoric devoid of rational content gets one on my iggy list. Never compare any human to any animal unless the comparison is flattering (as in "Mr. Jones is a real workhorse") without qualification. Any reference to a non-white person as a "monkey" is racist. You should know why by now. Your use of RAT is puerile in the context above (it could just as easily be used in  corpoRATe and bureaucRAT).

I'm not going to make any sexual allusions to your support for the Senator closest to fascism in his ideology. Your admiration for him says enough.  

 
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