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« on: July 06, 2009, 12:14:35 PM »
« edited: July 12, 2009, 07:48:47 AM by Senator MasterJedi, PPT »

Game Moderator Reform Bill

Whereas, the Senate understands that the Game Moderator is a position essential to the operation and performance of Atlasia and the Senate, the following is added to Article VIII, Section 2 of the Constitution as Clause 6:

6. The President shall appoint a Game Moderator with the advice and consent of the Senate.
a. The Game Moderator is responsible for providing the Senate and Atlasia with the necessary information to conduct debate and create legislation. The GM, at his discretion, shall provide information on wars, natural disasters, foreign events, and basic economic information including unemployment and inflation.
b. The Game Moderator may at any time be dismissed by the President.
c.  The Game Moderator may at any time be removed by the Senate by a two thirds vote, without presidential approval.

Sponsor(s): Sen. NC Yankee, Sen. PurpleState
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2009, 12:24:10 PM »

Bump, everyone seems to have missed that this is on the floor as well.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2009, 05:55:13 PM »

Bump, everyone seems to have missed that this is on the floor as well.

Nobody seems to notice my bills. Sad
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2009, 06:30:52 PM »

Supported. We won't have to wait for the President to do something to remove an inactive GM. Our last GM fiasco wouldn't have been as big of a problem if this was in place then.
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2009, 06:38:21 PM »

The President should have sole authority with this position. Bgwah was a rather stubborn and unique case, there's no reason why the Senate needs to barge into a President's authority just because you lost a court cause to take over the executive decisions.
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2009, 06:47:15 PM »

The President should have sole authority with this position. Bgwah was a rather stubborn and unique case, there's no reason why the Senate needs to barge into a President's authority just because you lost a court cause to take over the executive decisions.

     But if we are going to call this a meta-game position rather than an executive office, is there any particular reason why the President should have sole discretion over the Game Moderator as if it were another cabinet position?
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2009, 07:00:05 PM »

The President should have sole authority with this position. Bgwah was a rather stubborn and unique case, there's no reason why the Senate needs to barge into a President's authority just because you lost a court cause to take over the executive decisions.

     But if we are going to call this a meta-game position rather than an executive office, is there any particular reason why the President should have sole discretion over the Game Moderator as if it were another cabinet position?

As a meta-game position, it still must fit into the game somehow. This way we split the responsibilities between the President and Senate.
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2009, 07:02:43 PM »

The President should have sole authority with this position. Bgwah was a rather stubborn and unique case, there's no reason why the Senate needs to barge into a President's authority just because you lost a court cause to take over the executive decisions.

     But if we are going to call this a meta-game position rather than an executive office, is there any particular reason why the President should have sole discretion over the Game Moderator as if it were another cabinet position?

As a meta-game position, it still must fit into the game somehow. This way we split the responsibilities between the President and Senate.

     Yes, I know that it must fit into the game. The plan was to do so by treating it as a cabinet position. However, given how helpful the office, properly discharged, is to the function of the Senate, I do not see the special need of making it something that the Senate has no jurisdiction over.
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2009, 07:03:39 PM »

The President should have sole authority with this position. Bgwah was a rather stubborn and unique case, there's no reason why the Senate needs to barge into a President's authority just because you lost a court cause to take over the executive decisions.

     But if we are going to call this a meta-game position rather than an executive office, is there any particular reason why the President should have sole discretion over the Game Moderator as if it were another cabinet position?

As a meta-game position, it still must fit into the game somehow. This way we split the responsibilities between the President and Senate.

     Yes, I know that it must fit into the game. The plan was to dos o by treating it as a cabinet position. However, given how helpful the office, properly discharged, is to the function of the Senate, I do not see the special need of making it something that the Senate has no jurisdiction over.

We could always deny confirmation or remove the GM if he fails in his duties.
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2009, 07:05:34 PM »

Full support. The Senate must provide oversight of all officials, meta-game or not.
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2009, 07:06:11 PM »

The President should have sole authority with this position. Bgwah was a rather stubborn and unique case, there's no reason why the Senate needs to barge into a President's authority just because you lost a court cause to take over the executive decisions.

     But if we are going to call this a meta-game position rather than an executive office, is there any particular reason why the President should have sole discretion over the Game Moderator as if it were another cabinet position?

As a meta-game position, it still must fit into the game somehow. This way we split the responsibilities between the President and Senate.

     Yes, I know that it must fit into the game. The plan was to do so by treating it as a cabinet position. However, given how helpful the office, properly discharged, is to the function of the Senate, I do not see the special need of making it something that the Senate has no jurisdiction over.

We could always deny confirmation or remove the GM if he fails in his duties.

     I'm pretty sure that we agree on this issue. I was responding to Senator Marokai's statement that we should not be barging in on the President's decisions.
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2009, 07:06:49 PM »

I suppose I'm on the fence here. I personally believe it should be up to the President as it currently is, and not really up to the Senate. But, I have no reason to make a big deal of my opposition. (And changing the law, I suppose, is the proper way to go about it if we have to.) Leaning towards just abstaining.
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2009, 07:07:32 PM »

The President should have sole authority with this position. Bgwah was a rather stubborn and unique case, there's no reason why the Senate needs to barge into a President's authority just because you lost a court cause to take over the executive decisions.

     But if we are going to call this a meta-game position rather than an executive office, is there any particular reason why the President should have sole discretion over the Game Moderator as if it were another cabinet position?

As a meta-game position, it still must fit into the game somehow. This way we split the responsibilities between the President and Senate.

     Yes, I know that it must fit into the game. The plan was to do so by treating it as a cabinet position. However, given how helpful the office, properly discharged, is to the function of the Senate, I do not see the special need of making it something that the Senate has no jurisdiction over.

We could always deny confirmation or remove the GM if he fails in his duties.

     I'm pretty sure that we agree on this issue. I was responding to Senator Marokai's statement that we should not be barging in on the President's decisions.

Oh then carry on. Wink

I suppose I'm on the fence here. I personally believe it should be up to the President as it currently is, and not really up to the Senate. But, I have no reason to make a big deal of my opposition. (And changing the law, I suppose, is the proper way to go about it if we have to.) Leaning towards just abstaining.

Fine with me.
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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2009, 05:35:04 PM »

I tend to support oversight from the Senate.
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2009, 12:16:02 PM »

I hereby open up a final vote on this bill. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.


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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2009, 12:19:01 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2009, 01:48:36 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2009, 03:11:03 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2009, 04:16:52 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2009, 04:57:00 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2009, 04:58:17 PM »

This bill has enough votes to pass. Senators now have 24 hours to change their votes.
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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2009, 07:10:09 PM »

Aye!
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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2009, 10:01:34 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2009, 07:00:04 PM »

With 7 Ayes, 0 Nays and 1 Abstention this bill has passed. I hereby present it to the President for his signature.
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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2009, 07:14:04 PM »

Eh, could someone explain to me how this is legal again? I'm kind of wary of amending the constitution like this.
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