Man allegedly demands sex to return lost dog

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The free market types (libertarians) claim there's nothing wrong with such behaviors.

Hey, he just wanted to be paid for a service.

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The free market types (libertarians) claim there's nothing wrong with such behaviors.

There isn't, instead of bitching about how some 27 year old guy wanted to have sex with her, the girl should've either said no or give sex for cash (hell that's what I would've done). People often forget that the idea of a transaction is that there are two or more parties involved who each have their own provisions. She doesn't have to give the guy his dog back if he's making unfair demands, likewise the guy doesn't need to have sex with or extort money from a teenager if he wants his dog back. Eventually the two would've come to a compromise (besides busting a nut in a chick who's lower than the age of 17 is a crime in Cali, isn't it) most favorable to both sides.

This further proves that libertarians, unlike liberals and conservatives, are generally good at avoiding moralf****try.

How is the dog his provision?  It's the girl's legal property.

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The free market types (libertarians) claim there's nothing wrong with such behaviors.

There isn't, instead of bitching about how some 27 year old guy wanted to have sex with her, the girl should've either said no or give sex for cash (hell that's what I would've done). People often forget that the idea of a transaction is that there are two or more parties involved who each have their own provisions. She doesn't have to give the guy his dog back if he's making unfair demands, likewise the guy doesn't need to have sex with or extort money from a teenager if he wants his dog back. Eventually the two would've come to a compromise (besides busting a nut in a chick who's lower than the age of 17 is a crime in Cali, isn't it) most favorable to both sides.

This further proves that libertarians, unlike liberals and conservatives, are generally good at avoiding moralf****try.

How is the dog his provision?  It's the girl's legal property.

Oh right. Sorry I'm not awake right now. The wording in this article is weird.

Suckage, if I were in her shoes I would still try to sell my body for cash, or just hand the guy five bucks. Most of the people who lose dogs around here offer monetary rewards for losing their dogs. I mean if it's California: Who's going to miss $5?

Yeah, it seems like the flyers that people post around here offer somewhere between $50 and $75, so I'm going to use that little piece of anecdotal information and extrapolate it countrywide.   

I'm sure that money wouldn't have been much of an object to her parents, especially given the desired alternative...

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I'd like to know more about this story.  Did she offer a cash reward, only to have him demand sex instead?  It sounds like it, considering that he was charged with extortion and all.  Like I said, I wish the article had more info.

Edit: Crap, Lewis beat me to it.

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tried to extort a teenager by demanding cash or sex

Says here he'd've been okay with some cash. Doesn't say how much.

Also makes you wonder how come he was arrested right away - police just happened to be on the scene? He'd hinted at what he wanted on the phone and she brought the police right with her?

I mean really, guys this seems excessive. I mean why at a fast food restaurant of all friggin places? Whatever happened to diplomacy first?

Pedophiles love fast food?

The main problems I have are A) It's not his dog and he has no right to keep it from its owner and B) he tried to extort sex from an underage girl who just wanted her pet back.

But, like I said, I think there's more to this than the article reports.

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tried to extort a teenager by demanding cash or sex

Says here he'd've been okay with some cash. Doesn't say how much.

Also makes you wonder how come he was arrested right away - police just happened to be on the scene? He'd hinted at what he wanted on the phone and she brought the police right with her?

I mean really, guys this seems excessive. I mean why at a fast food restaurant of all friggin places? Whatever happened to diplomacy first?

Pedophiles love fast food?

The main problems I have are A) It's not his dog and he has no right to keep it from its owner and B) he tried to extort sex from an underage girl who just wanted her pet back.

But, like I said, I think there's more to this than the article reports.

The guy isn't a pedophile, he's an ephebophile or a hebephile (if the girl is a teenager).

Second, the threat of going to jail for making explicit threats should've made him change his tune. I mean did the girl even talk it over with him before calling the police? This article doesn't answer that.
Third, like I said earlier the incentive to keep the dog would've been outweighed by other factors like the girl warning authorities he was trying to extort her. She could've made him well aware of this fact but the way this article sounds she didn't.
How do we know if this was a guy with serious mental problems or just a guy who's been sex deprived for so long he'll take anything?

You see my gripe here?

I know.  It was a joke.  They probably decided on a McDonald's parking lot because it's a public place.

Right, the points you raised are also reasons that I think the article should have been longer.  Does he have a record that, for whatever reason, warrants him being monitored by the police?  Being "just some sex-deprived guy" isn't an excuse.

I found an entry on the L.A. Times blog that gives a little more info.  It says that he wanted sex after she told him that she didn't have enough money.  He's also currently on parole, and recently was spotted attempting to approach an undercover cop in a prostitution sting. Cite 

If he's not mentally unstable, I have no problems with the bail being set so high, given his apparent history.  If he is, I hope he gets lengthy treatment.

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Now if the man demanded to have sex with the dog, that would be funny.

Girls like to use dogs as a substitute if you catch my drift.

Do you know this from experience?