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GMantis
Dessie Potter
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« on: July 10, 2009, 12:07:13 AM »

Angela Merkel
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 01:46:11 AM »

Angela Merkel
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2009, 12:52:01 PM »

Angela Merkel
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Dessie Potter
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2009, 02:06:21 PM »

Angela Merkel
How many good leaders will be sacrificied in order to save Merkel?
And the Serbophobia of some here is really astounding! The most pro-European leader possible in Serbia is derided because as 90% of the population he is against the independence of Kosovo (if he actually supported Kosovo's independence he would be removed within a week). And I find it ironic that the two stating this come from a country which held a grudge for 47 years for a territory with a non native population.
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Dessie Potter
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2009, 02:44:25 PM »

Angela Merkel
How many good leaders will be sacrificied in order to save Merkel?
And the Serbophobia of some here is really astounding! The most pro-European leader possible in Serbia is derided because as 90% of the population he is against the independence of Kosovo (if he actually supported Kosovo's independence he would be removed within a week). And I find it ironic that the two stating this come from a country which held a grudge for 47 years for a territory with a non native population.

i didnt vote for him cause of kosovo as i could care less about that wortless chunk of land. i voted for him because i dont feel hes deserving of winning. hes made it this far for which you i think would be happy.
and in a way you are also the one sacrificing good leaders in a failed attempts to get rid of merkel, and its not like rudd was better then her anyways.
I didn't mean you - I meant the hypocritical French posters. Yes, I agree that there are reasons for his removal, but his support of Kosovo is not one of them.
The analogy doesn't work. In order to save Merkel, you have to vote for someone else, while my vote for Merkel actually helps other leaders.
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Dessie Potter
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2009, 03:58:21 PM »

And the Serbophobia of some here is really astounding! The most pro-European leader possible in Serbia is derided because as 90% of the population he is against the independence of Kosovo (if he actually supported Kosovo's independence he would be removed within a week). And I find it ironic that the two stating this come from a country which held a grudge for 47 years for a territory with a non native population.

I happen to support the independence of Kosovo, and I know you don't. But I don't want to see you get all worked up about it, so we'll leave it at that. He's a good leader, and he isn't a fascist. I think I wrote this in my post, but no, wait, I hate the Serbs. He still doesn't deserve to get the title of best leader in the world. But yes, just because I say that, I hate the Serbs. Roll Eyes

As to your last statement, you might find it interesting to know that just because I come from a country in particular doesn't mean I actively support the policies of the government at all times and that I always fully support what some hotheads say. You're not one to make stupid inane statements, but that was one.
I felt that you were just fishing around for a reason to vote for him, and his position on Kosovo was just the first thing you thought to make yet another scapegoat to save Merkel.
I don't think he should win, just pointing out that it's a particular poor reason to vote for him. After all, he couldn't be a Serbian leader if he was against Kosovo's independence.
I didn't say that you supported everyting your country did, just noting the irony.
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GMantis
Dessie Potter
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2009, 04:37:59 AM »


Oh, you're another one those people who think they can read my mind. Great. I love those people.

Haha, yes, it's ironic that I come from a country which did this and that. So what?
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It was just a guess. Sorry if it was incorrect.

Serbophobia is voting for the Serb leader in round... 53 ??

I wouldn't say Francophobia consists in ousting Sarkozy and/or ousting him very early Smiley , but maybe I'm wrong Cheesy !
Voting for him only because he's against your favourite political project as are 90% of Serbs and practically all politicians seems rather unfair (even if serbophobe was perhaps too strong a word).

Oh, in case it was unclear my post was a vote for Cvetkovic as well.

And this slavic nationalism is getting old (and decidedly weird from BRTD - "this is Serb land"? What kind of militant, nationalistic old-fashioned fascist mind do you have? It is amusing how obviously easy it would have been to made you a fervent supporter of a fascist government with just the tiniest bit of propaganda).

Even if he's the least fascist of the leading Serb politicians the fascist nature of Serb politics still makes him uncomfortably close to it. He certainly does not deserve to be on the list anymore.

How is Cvetcovic or Serb politics fascist? You know, fascist has a definition. It isn't just what you don't like.
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2009, 09:44:45 AM »

Angela Merkel
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2009, 04:30:24 AM »

The idea that your country has an inherent right to geographical areas for historical reasons and the readiness to back that idea by going to war.
I don't think anyone but a radical fringe is ready to go to war in Serbia.

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That's untrue. They have bad relations with countries with which they have had territorial disputes and those that have bombed them. Do you find this surprising?

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I don't think that Rudd, Harper and Sarkozy are fascist and Serb politics also isn't fascist. You still haven't given any evidence that they are fascist. Again, you don't like their foreign policy but that doesn't make them fascist.
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Dessie Potter
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2009, 11:08:51 AM »

The idea that your country has an inherent right to geographical areas for historical reasons and the readiness to back that idea by going to war.
I don't think anyone but a radical fringe is ready to go to war in Serbia.

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That's untrue. They have bad relations with countries with which they have had territorial disputes and those that have bombed them. Do you find this surprising?

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I don't think that Rudd, Harper and Sarkozy are fascist and Serb politics also isn't fascist. You still haven't given any evidence that they are fascist. Again, you don't like their foreign policy but that doesn't make them fascist.


Eh...did you miss the fact that they actually did? Like, only a decade ago...

And they have had territorial disputes or wars with every country in their continent except Russia (slight exaggeration). That merely underpins my point. This is an imperialistic country which tried to gain control of most of the Balkans during the last century. Despite them resorting even to attempts at genocide to uphold this empire it finally fell and now they spend a lot of their political energy lamenting this fact and scheming to get it back. I don't think fascist is that far off. But we shouldn't clutter the thread.
That is true. However, they are past this stage now. They are trying to get into the EU and have reformed to a graet degree. I would say that relations with their minorities are among the better ones in the Balkans.
But I suppose that when the evil Serbs are involved nothing and no time can remove their fascist nature.
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2009, 07:15:27 AM »

Angela Merkel
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2009, 02:57:11 PM »

Vasquez.

Why did he make it this far? He's allright for a Latin American leader, but the arms-smuggling, Castro-loving, anti-abortionist protectionist deserves to go now. 
Yes, the only good Latin American leaders are the slavishly pro-American ones.
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Dessie Potter
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2009, 02:46:02 PM »

It looks like the left is back in charge and is using it to vote off the best remaining leaders. Oh, well.
I don't see how Tusk is any better than those you voted for in the recent rounds.
Donald Tusk
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2009, 11:45:18 AM »

Manmohan Singh
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2009, 01:29:44 PM »

Manmohan Singh
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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2009, 01:42:16 PM »

And I would like to add that removing Toure, one of the best African leaders to save Stoltenberg, a rather doubtful leader, is pretty low.
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GMantis
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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2009, 09:12:31 AM »

Tarja Halonen
Leaders who don't have power should have been removed long ago.
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GMantis
Dessie Potter
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2009, 07:08:07 AM »

Tarja Halonen
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2009, 12:09:29 PM »

Manmohan Singh
I don't see why he should win again.
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GMantis
Dessie Potter
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2009, 05:10:27 AM »

Pahor. What the hell is he doing there?
The same could be said about Sigursdardottir. But unlike Pahor, she isn't Slavic, but Scandinavian, whcih probably explains your preference.
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Dessie Potter
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2009, 09:09:15 AM »

Pahor. What the hell is he doing there?
The same could be said about Sigursdardottir. But unlike Pahor, she isn't Slavic, but Scandinavian, whcih probably explains your preference.

I suppose you missed when I led the charge against Halonen and Stoltenberg.

I want Sigursdardottir off, but I think I know why she is there: world's only lesbian leader. Pahor doesn't seem bad, but random. I don't see anything distinct about him.
Sorry, I forgot that.
To be fair, both of them here because everybody had more important targets and they were overlooked.
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« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2009, 02:30:33 AM »

Manmohan Singh
But I have a feeling that he'll win again, because he's inoffensive and leads an important country.
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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2009, 09:00:51 AM »

Mohamed Nasheed
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« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2009, 02:17:34 AM »

Mohamed Nasheed
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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2009, 04:25:29 PM »

Mohamed Nasheed
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