Calling All Non-Americans!! Would You Trade Health Care Systems With Us?

[ChrisJG777]

For what ever little, grossly over exaggerated flaws the NHS may have, it's been working quite nicely for the past 60 odd years and to revert to a system similar to what the Americans use would by a step back into the dark ages.

[opebo]

It's pretty blatant people are voting "no" to make a point.  Our healthcare is clearly far superior and would prove beneficial to the dominant demographic on the forum.  Though I suppose it is the "Political Debate" section so I should expect people to vote politically.

I think people are voting for security, ff.  Many people posting on this forum are workers, and even if they are relatively well paid workers, their access to health care under the american system would be extremely insecure and dependent on their holding a job.  Aside from the tenuous nature of jobs in a general economic sense, it is worth noting that there is no reason for an employer or an insurer to retain an individual once he becomes sick.

A 'no' vote is not a political vote, or a vote to make a point, but simply a vote in rational self-interest.

[Nym90]

When a government program is older than you are, it's hard to imagine going without it. Take government schools, Social Security, the post office monopoly, or anti-trust laws. None of these has the slightest justification, but each will outlive us all.

With all due respect, those who are opposed to government programs who are older than them have the luxury of having never known life without them either, so this goes both ways.

And when such programs are highly popular, they also have the luxury of opposing them without having to worry about having their positions tested in the real world.

But I certainly hope time machines are invented one day, so that those who think the 1800's were the good old days are welcome to go back to them.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Looking down a well and seeing your own reflection, again, I see.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Ignoring reality in favor of an cheap insult again, I see.

I'm well aware that the majority of posters here are from disgustingly privileged backgrounds, but I reckon that money is an "issue" for slightly more than 1%... certainly as far as non-American posters are concerned.

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[Lief 🗽]

Our healthcare is clearly far superior. 

lol

If money is not an issue for you, our healthcare is far superior.

Which it isn't for about 99% of us on this forum.  Thank you for taking a sensible and mature position once again, and not the ignorant political one.

Yeah, I seriously doubt that.

[Vepres]

For general care and emergencies, yes, single-payer is superior. But for cutting-edge technology, specialists, and immediate service ours is superior.

I wonder if the physical therapist I'm currently seeing for a shoulder problem would be covered in Canada or the UK.

Oh, and I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I heard that in Canada, one must travel miles and/or wait months for something as simple as an MRI. Is that true?

[Smid]

For general care and emergencies, yes, single-payer is superior. But for cutting-edge technology, specialists, and immediate service ours is superior.

I wonder if the physical therapist I'm currently seeing for a shoulder problem would be covered in Canada or the UK.

Oh, and I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I heard that in Canada, one must travel miles and/or wait months for something as simple as an MRI. Is that true?

This is why I prefer a mixed system like we have in Australia - best of both systems. I have also heard that the waiting list for an MRI is quite lengthy.

[MaxQue]

For general care and emergencies, yes, single-payer is superior. But for cutting-edge technology, specialists, and immediate service ours is superior.

I wonder if the physical therapist I'm currently seeing for a shoulder problem would be covered in Canada or the UK.

Oh, and I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I heard that in Canada, one must travel miles and/or wait months for something as simple as an MRI. Is that true?

Where I live, we have an MRI on wheels. He goes in each hospital of the region all year long.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

But for cutting-edge technology, specialists, and immediate service ours is superior.

...if you have the money (and certain other things). And if you don't? Ordinary people can have rare-and-serious illlnesses as well...

[afleitch]

But for cutting-edge technology, specialists, and immediate service ours is superior.

...if you have the money (and certain other things). And if you don't? Ordinary people can have rare-and-serious illlnesses as well...

Not to mention the specialist hospitals, research and medical experts we have that operate within the NHS system. I work on behalf of quadriplegics, people who need 24hr care and supervision, corrective surgery, shunts, stomas and their bones broken and re-set countless times and that care is provided for them at no cost to their families who often have to give up work to help provide support and assistance for their loved ones.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Our healthcare is clearly far superior. 

lol

If money is not an issue for you, our healthcare is far superior.

Which it isn't for about 99% of us on this forum.  Thank you for taking a sensible and mature position once again, and not the ignorant political one.

Yeah, I seriously doubt that.

My family is on welfare, we have no car, and my grandparents and my other grandmother are both losing their homes. I didn't know money shouldn't be an issue for me. I thank Fezzy for this knowledge.

[Platypus]

Our healthcare is clearly far superior. 

lol

If money is not an issue for you, our healthcare is far superior.

Which it isn't for about 99% of us on this forum.  Thank you for taking a sensible and mature position once again, and not the ignorant political one.

Yeah, I seriously doubt that.

My family is on welfare, we have no car, and my grandparents and my other grandmother are both losing their homes. I didn't know money shouldn't be an issue for me. I thank Fezzy for this knowledge.

Hey Marokai, sorry to hear that. I'd offer to help out, but my weekly budget usually goes on pasta. Maybe I won't buy pasta sauce this week - it is a bit of a luxury - and help you out.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Our healthcare is clearly far superior. 

lol

If money is not an issue for you, our healthcare is far superior.

Which it isn't for about 99% of us on this forum.  Thank you for taking a sensible and mature position once again, and not the ignorant political one.

Yeah, I seriously doubt that.

My family is on welfare, we have no car, and my grandparents and my other grandmother are both losing their homes. I didn't know money shouldn't be an issue for me. I thank Fezzy for this knowledge.

Hey Marokai, sorry to hear that. I'd offer to help out, but my weekly budget usually goes on pasta. Maybe I won't buy pasta sauce this week - it is a bit of a luxury - and help you out.

Appreciated. When I'm dining over Ramen, I'll think of you

[Platypus]

Our healthcare is clearly far superior. 

lol

If money is not an issue for you, our healthcare is far superior.

Which it isn't for about 99% of us on this forum.  Thank you for taking a sensible and mature position once again, and not the ignorant political one.

Yeah, I seriously doubt that.

My family is on welfare, we have no car, and my grandparents and my other grandmother are both losing their homes. I didn't know money shouldn't be an issue for me. I thank Fezzy for this knowledge.

Hey Marokai, sorry to hear that. I'd offer to help out, but my weekly budget usually goes on pasta. Maybe I won't buy pasta sauce this week - it is a bit of a luxury - and help you out.

Appreciated. When I'm dining over Ramen, I'll think of you

No need; apparently money isn't an issue. Sweet!

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The insistence that the vast majority of people on the forum are extremely wealthy and never have any money problems is the most amusing thing I've seen in quite awhile.

[opebo]

Ignoring reality in favor of an cheap insult again, I see.

I'm well aware that the majority of posters here are from disgustingly privileged backgrounds, but I reckon that money is an "issue" for slightly more than 1%... certainly as far as non-American posters are concerned.

You have to remember that Fuzzy is a dependent child, Al.  I was just like him at 20 or whatever he is - the family teat was right there in front of my face.  I realize Fuzzy's family is richer than mine, but I'd like him to observe that I'm finally mostly cut off at about 40 (its been a ten year off and on process), receiving only a few thousand a year nowadays.  It could happen to him too!

I do wonder how Fezzyfestoons will bridge the gap between getting cut off and inheriting...

[War on Want]

Ok, fine...substitute "99%" with "vast majority".  There is that better for the posters more concerned with semantics than substance?

Most people on here are college students with lower middle class parents that have a good chance of being under the poverty line...

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Most people on this forum are not upper middle class or significantly privileged. Maybe very few if any grew up in actual poverty, but there's a very fine line between that and what Fezzy is assuming in that basically everyone grew up like himself. My parents are very far above the poverty line, but they sure as hell aren't rich.

[Hatman 🍁]

Time for a poll...

[Marokai Backbeat]

Ok, fine...substitute "99%" with "vast majority".  There is that better for the posters more concerned with semantics than substance?

Most people on here are college students with lower middle class parents that have a good chance of being under the poverty line...

No they're not, they're upper middle class suburban privileged brats that feign victimization and borderline poverty for emotional appeal.  They have no idea what financial hardship is and only further embarrass themselves by pretending to have a had life.

I beg to differ.

[War on Want]

Ok, fine...substitute "99%" with "vast majority".  There is that better for the posters more concerned with semantics than substance?

Most people on here are college students with lower middle class parents that have a good chance of being under the poverty line...

No they're not, they're upper middle class suburban privileged brats that feign victimization and borderline poverty for emotional appeal.  They have no idea what financial hardship is and only further embarrass themselves by pretending to have a had life.

I doubt they feign anything but they aren't upper middle class and they probably have experienced ramen poverty. In other words they aren't privileged or anything, they are basically average Americans.

I am not upper middle class in anyway. My family has employer based healthcare and some other things but my dad is basically unemployed and we have had medicare and food stamps in the past. My life isn't difficult but it is basically retarded to assume that I get everything I want and that my family is prosperous.

[Bono]

Ok, fine...substitute "99%" with "vast majority".  There is that better for the posters more concerned with semantics than substance?

Most people on here are college students with lower middle class parents that have a good chance of being under the poverty line...

No they're not, they're upper middle class suburban privileged brats that feign victimization and borderline poverty for emotional appeal.  They have no idea what financial hardship is and only further embarrass themselves by pretending to have a had life.

I doubt they feign anything but they aren't upper middle class and they probably have experienced ramen poverty. In other words they aren't privileged or anything, they are basically average Americans.

I am not upper middle class in anyway. My family has employer based healthcare and some other things but my dad is basically unemployed and we have had medicare and food stamps in the past. My life isn't difficult but it is basically retarded to assume that I get everything I want and that my family is prosperous.

You're all retired?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

NO FREAKING WAY!

I would never want to be a part of such "free-market" system.

No matter I'd have a money for covegare or not. I couldn't stand people around me dying because they can't afford treatments. This is shameful.

[War on Want]

Ok, fine...substitute "99%" with "vast majority".  There is that better for the posters more concerned with semantics than substance?

Most people on here are college students with lower middle class parents that have a good chance of being under the poverty line...

No they're not, they're upper middle class suburban privileged brats that feign victimization and borderline poverty for emotional appeal.  They have no idea what financial hardship is and only further embarrass themselves by pretending to have a had life.

I doubt they feign anything but they aren't upper middle class and they probably have experienced ramen poverty. In other words they aren't privileged or anything, they are basically average Americans.

I am not upper middle class in anyway. My family has employer based healthcare and some other things but my dad is basically unemployed and we have had medicare and food stamps in the past. My life isn't difficult but it is basically retarded to assume that I get everything I want and that my family is prosperous.

You're all retired?

I mean medicaid. Whoops.