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« on: July 21, 2009, 08:48:24 PM »
« edited: July 31, 2009, 12:06:16 PM by Senator MasterJedi, PPT »

Identifying Crime Bill

Section 1: Law enforcement departments shall make publically available all collected crime data excepting;

a. Data that shall directly or indirectly identify the victim of each crime.
b. Data that is being collected by law enforcement agencies for the purposes of a criminal investigation.
c. Data that has been collected by law enforcement agencies for the purposes of a criminal trial by jury.

Section 2: Crime data shall be compiled, analysed and disseminated to the public in written and visual format for each ZIP Code Tabulation Area.

Section 3: The Senate shall appropriate $50million for the development and support of online mapping and visual display to made available to the public.

Spon: Sen. Afleitch
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2009, 09:46:01 PM »

So, this is a way for us to compile information on crime in the nation and keep the public in the loop?
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2009, 07:04:53 AM »

So, this is a way for us to compile information on crime in the nation and keep the public in the loop?

Yes. And easier to do given current technology. It is not designed to let people see that Mr Smith stole from Mr Jones, but to give an indication of where crime hotspots are. This is something the police should be aware of, but it also helps community and voluntary groups target their resources within their neighbourhood.
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2009, 05:14:33 PM »

So, this is a way for us to compile information on crime in the nation and keep the public in the loop?

Yes. And easier to do given current technology. It is not designed to let people see that Mr Smith stole from Mr Jones, but to give an indication of where crime hotspots are. This is something the police should be aware of, but it also helps community and voluntary groups target their resources within their neighbourhood.

Fair enough. How much will it cost?
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2009, 10:09:53 AM »

Identifying Crime Bill

Section 1: Law enforcement departments shall make publically available all collected crime data excepting;

a. Data that shall directly or indirectly identify the victim of each crime.
b. Data that is being collected by law enforcement agencies for the purposes of a criminal investigation.
c. Data that has been collected by law enforcement agencies for the purposes of a criminal trial by jury.

Section 2: Crime data shall be compiled, analysed and disseminated to the public in written and visual format for each ZIP Code Tabulation Area.

Section 3: The Senate shall appropriate $50million for the development and support of online mapping and visual display to made available to the public.

Spon: Sen. Afleitch
Hi there, constituent Badger here with a letter to my senators regarding the proposed crime bill:

Including the exceptions for data collection lettered b and c (especially b) would essentially exclude all data gathered by the police. Literally everything. Simply put, collecting data for criminal investigations is what police officers do. Also, regarding exception c, there is no justification at all to differentiate between evidence collected in preparation for a jury trial vs. that collected in preparation for a trial to the bench (i.e. one heard directly by a judge instead of a jury).

I very much like the idea and goal of this bill. On line crime maps would be of great practical benefit to community groups. I also appreciate the desire to protect victims ID's and not interfere in ongoing criminal investigations/prosecutions. That said, the exceptions will have to be theroughly reworded or else this law will not permit gathering any of the data needed to meet its desired end. I urge the senate to do so and pass an amended form of this worthy bill.

Respectfully Signed,
Assemblyman Badger
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2009, 11:41:21 AM »

Is there anything being done on this too? If nothing is said or proposed by tomorrow morning I'm opening up the final vote.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2009, 11:52:59 AM »

Is there anything being done on this too? If nothing is said or proposed by tomorrow morning I'm opening up the final vote.

I probably should have commented on Badger's post, my apologies.

By 'a criminal investigation' it was intended that specific targeted investigations, like a local drugs bust etc would be excluded. I am aware that statistics are compliled to be used by the police in general, but I disagree with Badger that it would mean that all data would be excluded (I've based the wording of this on the scheme that now operates in London) and I'm not sure if I could word it differently.

However I will propose an amendment-

Identifying Crime Bill

Section 1: Law enforcement departments shall make publically available all collected crime data excepting;

a. Data that shall directly or indirectly identify the victim of each crime.
b. Data that is being collected by law enforcement agencies for the purposes of a criminal investigation.
b. Data that has been collected by law enforcement agencies for the purposes of a scheduled or ongoing criminal trial by jury.

Section 2: Crime data shall be compiled, analysed and disseminated to the public in written and visual format for each ZIP Code Tabulation Area.

Section 3: Collected data shall be released by law enforcement agencies into the public domain, subject to the exceptions outlined in Section 1, at least four weeks after it has been recorded

Section 4: The Senate shall appropriate $50million for the development and support of online mapping and visual display to made available to the public.
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2009, 10:43:45 PM »

Any idea how much this will cost?
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2009, 04:32:04 AM »


Next to nothing; this is information that the police routinely gather and will often make public but in a less user friendly form. The only cost is to set up the software to allow ease of use access for the public.
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2009, 12:04:32 PM »


Next to nothing; this is information that the police routinely gather and will often make public but in a less user friendly form. The only cost is to set up the software to allow ease of use access for the public.


Then I support this fully.
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2009, 12:09:57 PM »

I hereby open up a vote on this amendment. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2009, 04:35:20 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2009, 04:39:01 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2009, 05:07:41 PM »

I imagine it will be cleaned up at the PPT's discretion.

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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2009, 05:08:25 PM »

Aye I suppose.
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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2009, 05:10:55 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2009, 05:28:38 PM »

With 6 Ayes, 0 Nays and 0 Abstentions this amendment has passed.
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2009, 07:06:14 PM »

Aye ftr
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2009, 07:48:42 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2009, 06:58:50 AM »

I hereby open up a final vote on this bill. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2009, 07:00:09 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2009, 07:03:38 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2009, 09:00:02 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2009, 10:17:47 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2009, 12:55:55 PM »

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