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« Reply #50 on: October 23, 2010, 07:24:55 PM »

I really don't know why MJ hates me so fiercely.  My arrogance??  Wha..?

Like I said earlier, I did nothing to deserve his hatred.  Maybe you're right, Earl- he hates me because I'm gay.

You're a gay?  Damn, And it's too late to change my vote. Wink

Wow, didn't knew my running mate is a gay Smiley


You're kidding me, right?  You didn't know?
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« Reply #51 on: October 23, 2010, 07:51:29 PM »

Speaking of arrogance, I do beleive I am on the verge of stealing you title of longest continuous Senate service. Tongue Atleast I think you hold that distinction. Wink

Gabu was a Senator for 561 days. MasterJedi was only a Senator for 549 days.

You will beat them both if you complete your fifth term, with 609 days, serving a complete ten Senates in a row.

As for non-continuous, Bacon King is still well ahead of you, having served in about 13 Senates, and already elected to #14. Afleitch has been in 11.

Its not important really. I only mention it because, "someone" made such an issue of it when I decided to run again.

Why did SPC do so bad, did I miss some kind of scandal?

I ran a superbly strong campaign for one. We had a good race, and he got in late at a time when most of the Populares had already endorsed me. I think that despite the heated arguements over my record and the interpretation of it, I think we remained above any really personal attacks (Dishonesty, stupidy, Aqua Budda, etc) and I am glad that we managed to not damage our personal friendship over the race. I hope he changes his mind about leaving Atlasia. Love him our hate him, he is a passionate voice for what he beleives and Atlasian needs more passion not less.
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« Reply #52 on: October 23, 2010, 08:25:35 PM »

I really don't know why MJ hates me so fiercely.  My arrogance??  Wha..?

Like I said earlier, I did nothing to deserve his hatred.  Maybe you're right, Earl- he hates me because I'm gay.

You're a gay?  Damn, And it's too late to change my vote. Wink

JCP has plenty of gays. Tongue

I want to say that at one point last year the entire JCP Senate delegation was gay. (Just checked. I was correct. At least in the 32nd Senate, all JCP Senators were gay.)

Well that's gay... Tongue
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« Reply #53 on: October 23, 2010, 08:33:44 PM »

I really don't know why MJ hates me so fiercely.  My arrogance??  Wha..?

Like I said earlier, I did nothing to deserve his hatred.  Maybe you're right, Earl- he hates me because I'm gay.

You're a gay?  Damn, And it's too late to change my vote. Wink

JCP has plenty of gays. Tongue

I want to say that at one point last year the entire JCP Senate delegation was gay. (Just checked. I was correct. At least in the 32nd Senate, all JCP Senators were gay.)

Well that's gay... Tongue

Good times were had by all in the meetings of the JCP coc-.. caucus. Tongue
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« Reply #54 on: October 23, 2010, 08:34:56 PM »

I really don't know why MJ hates me so fiercely.  My arrogance??  Wha..?

Like I said earlier, I did nothing to deserve his hatred.  Maybe you're right, Earl- he hates me because I'm gay.

You're a gay?  Damn, And it's too late to change my vote. Wink

JCP has plenty of gays. Tongue

I want to say that at one point last year the entire JCP Senate delegation was gay. (Just checked. I was correct. At least in the 32nd Senate, all JCP Senators were gay.)

Well that's gay... Tongue

Good times were had by all in the meetings of the JCP coc-.. caucus. Tongue

Pics or it didn't happen!
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« Reply #55 on: October 23, 2010, 08:36:59 PM »

I really don't know why MJ hates me so fiercely.  My arrogance??  Wha..?

Like I said earlier, I did nothing to deserve his hatred.  Maybe you're right, Earl- he hates me because I'm gay.

You're a gay?  Damn, And it's too late to change my vote. Wink

JCP has plenty of gays. Tongue

I want to say that at one point last year the entire JCP Senate delegation was gay. (Just checked. I was correct. At least in the 32nd Senate, all JCP Senators were gay.)

Well that's gay... Tongue

Good times were had by all in the meetings of the JCP coc-.. caucus. Tongue

Pics or it didn't happen!

Lets not give Jedi and Gustaf a hard time on a Saturday. Tongue
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« Reply #56 on: October 23, 2010, 08:55:07 PM »

I really don't know why MJ hates me so fiercely.  My arrogance??  Wha..?

Like I said earlier, I did nothing to deserve his hatred.  Maybe you're right, Earl- he hates me because I'm gay.

You're a gay?  Damn, And it's too late to change my vote. Wink

Wow, didn't knew my running mate is a gay Smiley


You're kidding me, right?  You didn't know?

I had no idea.
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« Reply #57 on: October 23, 2010, 09:24:44 PM »

That was very funny.

SPC getting no votes beside his own, and them immediatelly: "can I deregister permanently"?
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« Reply #58 on: October 23, 2010, 09:30:47 PM »

Voters who have yet to vote (along with their region)


afleitch   -   Mideast
agooji   -   Pacific
AHDuke99   -   South
albaleman   -   Midwest
Alcon   -   Pacific
Arescan   -   Mideast
azmagic   -   Northeast
bgwah   -   Pacific
boris78   -   Mideast
brandonh   -   South
CalebR   -   Midwest
ColinW   -   Northeast
Cosmo Kramer   -   South
CultureKing   -   Pacific
Daniel Adams   -   South
Dessie Potter   -   Midwest
Devilman88   -   South
Earth   -   Northeast
East Coast Republican   -   South
electoraljew2   -   Northeast
Ernest   -   South
Flyers2004   -   Northeast
Franzl   -   Mideast
Frodo   -   Mideast
gporter   -   South
Gren   -   Mideast
hcallega   -   Northeast
Holmes   -   Northeast
Iosif   -   Pacific
James Rivington   -   Mideast
Joe Republic   -   Pacific
justW353   -   Northeast
KyleGordon2016   -   Mideast
Lahbas   -   Northeast
Liberalkid   -   Mideast
Lunar   -   Pacific
MagneticFree   -   Midwest
Mart   -   Northeast
MaxQue   -   Pacific
Mechaman   -   Midwest
Mike Keller   -   South
Mquinn   -   Northeast
mrk   -   Northeast
Mr. Moderate   -   Northeast
nclib   -   Mideast
nickjbor   -   Midwest
olawakandi   -   Mideast
Peter   -   Mideast
phknrocket1k   -   Pacific
Progressive Realist   -   Pacific
rebel_libertarian   -   Northeast
Republican95   -   South
Republitarian   -   South
Rochambeau   -   Northeast
RosettaStoned   -   Midwest
RowanBrandon   -   Northeast
senseiofj324   -   Midwest
sg0508   -   Northeast
silent_spade07   -   Midwest
Smid   -   Northeast
StatesRights   -   South
tuckerbanks   -   Mideast
useful idiot   -   South
Vosem   -   Mideast
Warren_E_Dodge   -   Midwest
wdecker1   -   Northeast
Xahar   -   Pacific
xavier110   -   Northeast
xfactor99   -   Pacific
yougo1000   -   Northeast
Zacoftheaxes   -   Northeast
Zarn   -   Northeast
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« Reply #59 on: October 23, 2010, 09:32:58 PM »

Why don't you just go ahead and write mailing lists while you're at it, at this point. Tongue
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« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2010, 09:38:23 PM »

Why don't you just go ahead and write mailing lists while you're at it, at this point. Tongue

Sorry I didn't see this earlier, I was writing a mailing list Tongue
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« Reply #61 on: October 23, 2010, 10:26:33 PM »

The tracker is now fully up-to-date.
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« Reply #62 on: October 24, 2010, 12:00:55 AM »

A note about people who are trying to PM me.

I've reached my maximum limit of PM's per hour. Any further PM's should be directed to my MSN, AIM, or said here.
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« Reply #63 on: October 24, 2010, 12:31:28 AM »
« Edited: October 24, 2010, 12:36:01 AM by Libertatis »

I really don't know why MJ hates me so fiercely.  My arrogance??  Wha..?

Like I said earlier, I did nothing to deserve his hatred.  Maybe you're right, Earl- he hates me because I'm gay.

You're a gay?  Damn, And it's too late to change my vote. Wink

JCP has plenty of gays. Tongue

I want to say that at one point last year the entire JCP Senate delegation was gay. (Just checked. I was correct. At least in the 32nd Senate, all JCP Senators were gay.)

Well that's gay... Tongue

Good times were had by all in the meetings of the JCP coc-.. caucus. Tongue

So are straight people even allowed in the JCP?...or perhaps a better name would be the Gay Old Party?

I think I'll refer to the JCP from now on as the GOP.
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« Reply #64 on: October 24, 2010, 12:36:30 AM »

There have been concerns raised about Alcon's vote. While it has been noted in this thread that generally, a vote for the presidential candidate is considered a vote for that ticket, he has put "Write-In" before Fritz.

This is a complex issue that will require me to look though the laws. For now it will stand.

If anyone has legal advice one way or another feel free to post it here.
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« Reply #65 on: October 24, 2010, 12:38:50 AM »

I really don't know why MJ hates me so fiercely.  My arrogance??  Wha..?

Like I said earlier, I did nothing to deserve his hatred.  Maybe you're right, Earl- he hates me because I'm gay.

You're a gay?  Damn, And it's too late to change my vote. Wink

JCP has plenty of gays. Tongue

I want to say that at one point last year the entire JCP Senate delegation was gay. (Just checked. I was correct. At least in the 32nd Senate, all JCP Senators were gay.)

Well that's gay... Tongue

Good times were had by all in the meetings of the JCP coc-.. caucus. Tongue

So are straight people even allowed in the JCP?...or perhaps a better name would be the Gay Old Party?

I think I'll refer to the JCP from now on as the GOP.

Just because we dont allow straight people does not mean we are all gay.
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« Reply #66 on: October 24, 2010, 12:41:47 AM »

There have been concerns raised about Alcon's vote. While it has been noted in this thread that generally, a vote for the presidential candidate is considered a vote for that ticket, he has put "Write-In" before Fritz.

This is a complex issue that will require me to look though the laws. For now it will stand.

If anyone has legal advice one way or another feel free to post it here.

I would say that writing in a candidate who is already running on a party ticket means that one wishes to vote for the candidate, but refuses to vote for the party.  The more concerning issue, IMO, is if no choice for Vice President is indicated.
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« Reply #67 on: October 24, 2010, 12:43:27 AM »

I've taken a few moments to think. This is what I've come to.


Marking "Fritz" on your ballot means a clear vote for the Fritz/Kalwejt team
Marking "Write In: Fritz/Kalwejt" would be odd and awkward but could be counted towards the Fritz/Kalwejt team as the voter has clearly specified his intent.

However. Making "Write In:" anything implies that the voter is NOT voting for any registered ticket. If the voter was, they could mark in a number or an X beside the proper name. The simple fact that it says "Write In:" implies that the intent of the voter is to not vote for any official ticket.

Therefore, I read this as being a vote for Fritz as President but no one as Vice President.  I've therefore taken Alcon off the list for now, but will continue to review this and think about this. A note as well that a ticket needs to win, so even if Fritz/Kalwejt + Fritz/Nobody > Andrew/Duke, so long as Andrew/Duke > Fritz/Kalwejt, the former wins.
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« Reply #68 on: October 24, 2010, 12:45:34 AM »

     I haven't actually looked at the vote in question, but I believe election law is quite clear that a vote for the Presidential candidate on a declared ticket is to be interpreted as a vote for that ticket. I can look it up if anyone wants.
I will attempt to do this right now. If anyone else has ideas feel free to post here.
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« Reply #69 on: October 24, 2010, 12:46:50 AM »

But if someone only votes for one candidate, and doesn't indicate if they are voting for that candidate for President or for Vice President, it's an ambiguous vote, since we don't know which of those two offices the vote is for.
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« Reply #70 on: October 24, 2010, 12:49:39 AM »

But if someone only votes for one candidate, and doesn't indicate if they are voting for that candidate for President or for Vice President, it's an ambiguous vote, since we don't know which of those two offices the vote is for.

That is also true.

Also this: https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/2006_Atl._S.C.2d_3_(Christian_Democratic_Party_v._Department_of_Forum_Affairs) may apply.
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« Reply #71 on: October 24, 2010, 12:54:44 AM »

I really don't know why MJ hates me so fiercely.  My arrogance??  Wha..?

Like I said earlier, I did nothing to deserve his hatred.  Maybe you're right, Earl- he hates me because I'm gay.

You're a gay?  Damn, And it's too late to change my vote. Wink

JCP has plenty of gays. Tongue

I want to say that at one point last year the entire JCP Senate delegation was gay. (Just checked. I was correct. At least in the 32nd Senate, all JCP Senators were gay.)

Well that's gay... Tongue

Good times were had by all in the meetings of the JCP coc-.. caucus. Tongue

So are straight people even allowed in the JCP?...or perhaps a better name would be the Gay Old Party?

I think I'll refer to the JCP from now on as the GOP.

We're willing to put you through a conversion course, if you like.
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« Reply #72 on: October 24, 2010, 12:55:19 AM »

All voters who have yet to vote have now been contacted via PM.
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« Reply #73 on: October 24, 2010, 01:00:55 AM »

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Forum_Affairs_Law
"If a voter turns in a ballot for a presidential election with only one name listed, and if there is only one ticket that contains that person as the presidential candidate, that ballot must be counted towards the total for that ticket."

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Consolidated_Electoral_System_Reform_Act
"Where a voter lists only the Presidenitial candidate of a ticket in a Presidential election and this is the sole occurrence of the Presidential candidate on the ballot, then the vote shall be construed to be for the ticket which the Presidential candidate is a member of."


Write In or not, the law is clear. Alcon's name has been re-added.
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« Reply #74 on: October 24, 2010, 01:05:37 AM »

I do note that some of the above laws may be out of date, but, even if no "active" law exists about a situation, it if my belief that precedent would stand, and that precedent, would thus be shaped by "old law".
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