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Question: Do you feel sympathy for alt righters who get doxxed?
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« on: August 09, 2017, 10:23:13 AM »

The fact that this question even needs to be asked is very worrying.

Getting doxxed is terrible, it doesn't matter what their political leanings are and just because someone has different political beliefs, doesn't mean they are less human and less deserving of privacy and the fact that someone was so angry about memes on the internet that they destroyed a guy's career and family is tragic.
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2017, 03:40:39 PM »

The fact that this question even needs to be asked is very worrying.

Getting doxxed is terrible, it doesn't matter what their political leanings are and just because someone has different political beliefs, doesn't mean they are less human and less deserving of privacy and the fact that someone was so angry about memes on the internet that they destroyed a guy's career and family is tragic.

Wouldn't his wife have a right to know that her husband was a Nazi?
Of course she does but the issues for him are a lot bigger than that. Not only has he lost his wife, he now has no form of income and is completely unemployable, he won't be able to see his kids as often if he has them, his details are now out there in the open for anyone to see, potentially making him a target. The rest of his life will be a massive struggle, all because he posted some stupid memes on the internet.
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2017, 07:02:40 AM »

The fact that this question even needs to be asked is very worrying.

Getting doxxed is terrible, it doesn't matter what their political leanings are and just because someone has different political beliefs, doesn't mean they are less human and less deserving of privacy and the fact that someone was so angry about memes on the internet that they destroyed a guy's career and family is tragic.

Wouldn't his wife have a right to know that her husband was a Nazi?
Of course she does but the issues for him are a lot bigger than that. Not only has he lost his wife, he now has no form of income and is completely unemployable, he won't be able to see his kids as often if he has them, his details are now out there in the open for anyone to see, potentially making him a target. The rest of his life will be a massive struggle, all because he posted some stupid memes on the internet.

Ok,  but he did it to himself, no?

I mean, practically every company in America will fire you for posting racist stuff on the internet. No one can be surprised when it happens.

Well I don't think businesses should be allowed to fire employees for their political opinions unless there is a good case that those views would stand in the way of them doing their job but even if I thought it was ok for employees to be fired for that, it doesn't mean I wouldn't feel sympathy for a guy whose life has been ruined.

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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2017, 09:03:30 AM »

I mean I wouldn't want an alt-righter working at a business of mine because I'd be worried about Jewish and minority employees. It's a completely valid concern.

Alt righters are not the only people who have a chance that they may commit violence. You could have a suspicion that anyone you work with could be violent. Believing in an extremist ideology does not mean you will commit violence in most cases. In fact, if you deny alt-righters the ability to get an income, then you make them more likely to be violent because you make it impossible for them to climb the economic ladder through legal means.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2017, 07:43:41 AM »

It's not just about violence, which is a pretty rare thing even with those types. You just can't have a positive business culture if you have employees who hate other employees or some of your clients. Not wanting to have racists/sexists/homophobes at your business is a perfectly valid concern and not just motivated by wanting to "punish" people for certain opinions.
Hatreds and rivalries will always arise in businesses regardless of ideology because by definition, employees are competing for pay rises and promotions. People should not be fired for ideology unless they actually put it into practice. If the alt righter starts refusing to work with and verbally abusing black employees, then there is, of course, good reason to fire. But, some stupid memes they posted on facebook is not good reason to fire. Many people act very different online than in person anyway.
Do you seriously think some hardcore stormfront-esq racist would provide equally good customer service to a black customer? Of course not, thus they're an inferior employee to someone who would.
Yes, they would because if they didn't, they'd get fired.

Once again, going back to the original point about sympathy, even if it was entirely ok to fire people because they are alt right, that doesn't mean you can't be sympathetic to someone who is going to suffer for the rest of his life because of his dumb opinions, that he may not even have anymore, people's opinions change.
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