Italy Election Maps

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The US was basically what later became the PSDI, and was a right-wing splinter of the Socialists opposed to the FDP coalition. It went on to become a corrupt machine party allied with the DC.

Eventually things got to the point that, in some respects, the PSDI became the most conservative of the Pentapartito. Though IIRC the only thing they actually stood for (eventually) was maintaining huge pensions for the civil service.

[minionofmidas]

The US was basically what later became the PSDI, and was a right-wing splinter of the Socialists opposed to the FDP coalition. It went on to become a corrupt machine party allied with the DC.

Eventually things got to the point that, in some respects, the PSDI became the most conservative of the Pentapartito.

No, I think that was always the PLI.

A note on why the PLI is "Liberal": The ramifications of Italian reunification by Piemont and the annexation of the Papal State (and the Church's post-1870 attitude) meant that pro-government Conservatism (and the other type mostly didn't partake in elections) was "Liberal" and what elsewhere would have been called "Liberal" was variously termed "Democratic", "Radical" or "Republican" (which is where the postwar PRI gets its name from).

Of course, Germany's "National Liberals" weren't much different...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

No, I think that was always the PLI.

Yeah, probably. I was just parroting what I'd read in a couple of academic works on the subject

I think they may have been thinking most of their position wrt the PCI, or perhaps the irony was too tempting.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Anyway, percentage of parliamentarians by party under investigation in the summer of 1993:

PSDI: 47
PSI: 34
DC: 23
PRI: 20
PLI: 18
PDS: 3
RC: 2
LN: 1

So... yeah. DC had the most in raw terms at 74.

[minionofmidas]

How can a minor party have 1% of its legislators under investigation - or is that including provincial and municipal councils?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Italian politics are extremely interesting. I really need to learn more about it.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

How can a minor party have 1% of its legislators under investigation - or is that including provincial and municipal councils?

It's a rounding issue I think; Lega Nord had 80 deputies and senators after the 1992 elections and one of these was under investigation, so the actual figure is 1.2.

[minionofmidas]

It's a rounding issue I think; Lega Nord had 80 deputies and senators after the 1992 elections

Oh. Right. Sorry.

[Iannis]

Still hoping for an explanation on Lucca, which really stands out on the 1948 map.

My personal opinion. Lucca's importance declined after XV century, and was shadowed by Florence, or Livorno importance. It was not a merchants or handicrafts' center like the other cities. No rich bankers. Probably the only important element remained the church, and a petty bourgeoise, add the rural environment and you have a conservative approach. Maybe.

Rural Tuscany was not conservative.

In some part it was

[Iannis]

I'm not too familiar with Italian politics before the 1980s. Could someone explain the US, BN and PNM?

The US was basically what later became the PSDI, and was a right-wing splinter of the Socialists opposed to the FDP coalition. It went on to become a corrupt machine party allied with the DC. 

The BN was a one-election between two southern based parties, the 'Poujadist' (before its time) Uomo Qualunque Front and the Liberal Party. The Liberals were a corrupt right-wing party, and the party of the old southern elite. Later on, its vote shifted towards the north and weakened in the south (the opposite of what happened to the PSI).

The PNM were monarchists.

PLI and PSDI were representing clear positions, social democrats opposite to USSR allied communists (they had scandinavian social democrat as ispiration) and classical liberalism. No corruption at all till 80s.

[Hash]

Still hoping for an explanation on Lucca, which really stands out on the 1948 map.

My personal opinion. Lucca's importance declined after XV century, and was shadowed by Florence, or Livorno importance. It was not a merchants or handicrafts' center like the other cities. No rich bankers. Probably the only important element remained the church, and a petty bourgeoise, add the rural environment and you have a conservative approach. Maybe.

Rural Tuscany was not conservative.

In some part it was

Haha.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

1963. This was an important election because of its aftermath; for the first time in the history of the Republic the leader of the DC's (Aldo Moro) chose not to become Prime Minister. Of course he ended up as Prime Minister a few months later (Italian politics at the time being what it was), but the principle was important. It was also Togliatti's last election as PCI leader; he died in 1964.

Anyway. Watch the magical, moving PLI vote!

[Hash]

Any idea what's up with Trappani at the western end of Sicily? Only province to vote for the republic, and one of the DC's weakest on the island.

[Insula Dei]

It just is a freedom Place!

[minionofmidas]

I seem to recall something about tenant radicalism there, but my recollection is super vague. Tradition died out over time.

[Iannis]

Any idea what's up with Trappani at the western end of Sicily? Only province to vote for the republic, and one of the DC's weakest on the island.

I was looking at different villages' results.

I think that much depends on the workers organization strenght and local personalities especialli for PRI and PLI. PCI is strong in big town with strong presence of fishermen and agricultural workers. But in south Italy any equilibrium usually changes very fast.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

A question to the Italian posters here. Are there any maps of the single member constituencies used in the 1994, 1996 and 2001 elections anywhere? Were any ever published/printed?

[Iannis]

A question to the Italian posters here. Are there any maps of the single member constituencies used in the 1994, 1996 and 2001 elections anywhere? Were any ever published/printed?

there's not, I fear. In Italy there's not this electoral maps culture :-( There was a  site, akab.it, but expired.

[Keystone Phil]

In Italy there's not this electoral maps culture

When the electoral system is as complex and changes as often as Italy's, I'm not surprised. The constituency system there doesn't make any sense to me. In 2006, Berlusconi's constituency was Naples. Two years later, it was Molise. He hasn't lived in either area.

[minionofmidas]

He heads all or almost all his parties' constituency lists. He then has to resign every seat he wins but one.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

A question to the Italian posters here. Are there any maps of the single member constituencies used in the 1994, 1996 and 2001 elections anywhere? Were any ever published/printed?

there's not, I fear. In Italy there's not this electoral maps culture :-( There was a  site, akab.it, but expired.

Yeah, thought not. I might try to make some highly inaccurate maps based on the names of constituencies and just drawing lines around them. Not very good but better than nothing.

[Hash]

Perhaps there's some kind of law somewhere defining boundaries which might be on the interwebs (I don't know if Italy puts its laws on the interwebs like France does).

[Keystone Phil]

He heads all or almost all his parties' constituency lists. He then has to resign every seat he wins but one.

I assume he wins his actual constituency so I don't understand why he doesn't resign from every seat but that one.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Perhaps there's some kind of law somewhere defining boundaries which might be on the interwebs (I don't know if Italy puts its laws on the interwebs like France does).

I think I have just discovered a partial solution. What to do about large urban areas though? Guesswork and random lines with an admittance of certain error, I suppose.

I might post examples soon. At some point maps (at PR constituency level) of the delightfully fycked up 1994 election also.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Bizarre, messy election. The magic of right-click creates a larger version. A lot of parties didn't run everywhere; including Forza Italia.