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« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2016, 10:51:05 AM »

The good news is that thing was passed through reconciliation, and therefor can be repealed through the same process.

Changes to get the House on board with the Senate version were passed through reconciliation because Kennedy had died. But Obamacare passed the Senate with 60 votes and wasn't a reconciliation bill.

In the first post it clearly states that they can't repeal the entire bill with reconciliation.

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Democrats will not assist Republicans in any repeal and later replace scheme, they will make the Republicans own it

Exactly.  If Republicans chose to dismantle Obamacare and destroy the health care industry and likely economy with it, they 100% own the consequences.  They will get zero help from Democrats when they come crawling to them for a lifeline.

Their hope is pretty clearly to repeal it with an effective date of 3 years later, so that they can separate the action from its consequences. Then they'll come running to Democrats, asking them to defuse the bomb they just started ticking, and in three years they'll either have a big bipartisan victory or a huge disaster that they'll try to blame on Democratic intransigence. It's so craven.

Let's see how it works for them when they try to blame the Democrats when Republicans hold Congress and the Presidency.  This worked real well for Democrats in 2009 and 2010.
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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2016, 10:53:18 AM »

The good news is that thing was passed through reconciliation, and therefor can be repealed through the same process.

Changes to get the House on board with the Senate version were passed through reconciliation because Kennedy had died. But Obamacare passed the Senate with 60 votes and wasn't a reconciliation bill.

In the first post it clearly states that they can't repeal the entire bill with reconciliation.

Also:

Democrats will not assist Republicans in any repeal and later replace scheme, they will make the Republicans own it

Exactly.  If Republicans chose to dismantle Obamacare and destroy the health care industry and likely economy with it, they 100% own the consequences.  They will get zero help from Democrats when they come crawling to them for a lifeline.

Their hope is pretty clearly to repeal it with an effective date of 3 years later, so that they can separate the action from its consequences. Then they'll come running to Democrats, asking them to defuse the bomb they just started ticking, and in three years they'll either have a big bipartisan victory or a huge disaster that they'll try to blame on Democratic intransigence. It's so craven.

Let's see how it works for them when they try to blame the Democrats when Republicans hold Congress and the Presidency.  This worked real well for Democrats in 2009 and 2010.

I don't know. The public bought "we refused to work with them therefore they weren't bipartisan".
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« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2016, 01:22:54 PM »
« Edited: December 08, 2016, 01:38:59 PM by hermit »



Edited to add: Since I can't find the article to link to, I'll take down this post.
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« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2016, 01:24:32 PM »

Hermit will you link the article please?
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« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2016, 01:32:30 PM »
« Edited: December 08, 2016, 01:38:24 PM by hermit »

Hermit will you link the article please?

It was just there, right on the front page of CNN a few minutes ago, and now there's an article about Giraffes.

I'll try to find it.

Edited to add: I can't find the article. Maybe they stated some "facts" that weren't true and removed it fast.
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