Why Bush will win

[© tweed]

Nym90 maybe.  He registed at the old board in March '01.

[Demrepdan]

Nym90 maybe.  He registed at the old board in March '01.

Yes! Nym! I nominate Nym as well!!

Is there a link to the old forum, so I can read old posts and see how long certain members have been members of the forum?

I wish I would have paid more attention to the forums on this webpage. I've visited this webpage since late 2000, but never paid attention to the forums.

[© tweed]

Here is the link to the old board:

https://uselectionatlas.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/leip/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi

There is nothing saying Nym would accept the job though, we might have to talk him into it.

[Gustaf]

The man is an idiot.  He has 55 posts already....he has posted in all of our buried threads.  I think it is fair to ask justification from him.

I wish Dave would make a few of us trusted members, moderators at the forums. (If the forums will allow him to, that is.) That way we can lay down the law with an IRON FIST, and stop all these fools and their stupid posts, and bring an end to trolls. As President Bush said about terrorist, I say about trolls.

We will hunt them down, and take em down. We'll smoke em out. These guys can't stay hidden forever. They will experience the justice they never gave to others.

But, if he did that, everyone would be crying for a moderator job.  If he did give some people moderator jobs, I don't think either one of us deserves it.  I have only been a member since May, and you weren't at the old board.  Somebody who has been here a long time deserves the job.

Agreed. I know that I don't really deserve it, since I'm realtively new the the forum, and plus I know I would abuse my power as moderator. lol

But someone else should be moderator, so they can end all of this nonesense. Someone strong.....someone smart....someone wise....

Maybe whoever got the most posts should be moderator (Hmm, it's gonna be hard cathing up with Realpolitik's 700+ posts, though!)

[© tweed]

Well, you might have somebody like jrvansbo who has 570 posts and has been a member for a month, so I think Nym's tenure as a emeber here is impressive and earns him the job.

[Gustaf]

Well, you might have somebody like jrvansbo who has 570 posts and has been a member for a month, so I think Nym's tenure as a emeber here is impressive and earns him the job.

Well, I wasn't being that serious anyway. It would be tough picking moderators in any case, they would get a dangerous amount of power...

[© tweed]

Well, you might have somebody like jrvansbo who has 570 posts and has been a member for a month, so I think Nym's tenure as a emeber here is impressive and earns him the job.

Well, I wasn't being that serious anyway. It would be tough picking moderators in any case, they would get a dangerous amount of power...

I think most of us would not abuse the power, but I am sure some would.

[Gustaf]

Well, you might have somebody like jrvansbo who has 570 posts and has been a member for a month, so I think Nym's tenure as a emeber here is impressive and earns him the job.

Well, I wasn't being that serious anyway. It would be tough picking moderators in any case, they would get a dangerous amount of power...

I think most of us would not abuse the power, but I am sure some would.

Someone might delete bible quotes or someone else might delete anything irreverent. Or what do you think?

[© tweed]

Haha...
I'll tell you what I'd like to do with the bible quotes....

[Gustaf]

Haha...
I'll tell you what I'd like to do with the bible quotes....

I can imagine...

[jravnsbo]

mr_prez are you on drugs??

Back away fromt he liberal PROPOGANDA for 2 minutes and listen.

Bush gave across the board tax cuts.  So naturally if you PAY MORE YOU GET MORE BACK.  Plus Bush gave tax cuts to the middle class and eliminated some harmful taxes such as the death tax, marriage penalty and gave more to child tax credit.  Dems want to raise taxes, Deana nd Gephardt even want to raise taxes on the middle class.

Next foreign policy.  9/11 suspects.  well we have captured a number of terrorists, including the bomber of the USS Cole.  OBL is hidding in a very mountanous area and it is not easy to get him.  The terrain and the locals are all against us.  Contrary to the Democrats rhetoric we have continually had forces there searching for OBL the entire time we have been in Iraq.

Iraq- 12 UN resolutions were violated.  Clinton did not act to enforce the agreements that Iraq agreed to to end the first Gulf war.  Next in 1998 Clinton asked the Congress for a resolution to use force against Iraq for violating the UN mandates and it was approved and he shot a few missles in there.  There are many Clinton and Dem quotes from this time.  Saddam continued to violate them and HARBOR TERRORISTS, so we went to war.  Recently links have been proven that Muhammed Ata ( the lead 9/11 bomber) was in Baghdad 3 months before 9/11 meeting with Iraqi military and gov't officials.  Plus there were terrorist training camps and they were continuing to try and build their WMD program.

Since Bush has went on the offensive instead of following the Clinton appeasement policy, we have knocked out the Taliban in Afghanistan, taken down the Iraqi regime ( mass killings have stopped) and the Libyas now with the show of force in Iraq have given up their WMDs.  Col Quadafi of Libya said "I'll do whatever the Americans want me to do, because I saw what happened in Iraq"  He saw that Bush was willing to use force to eliminate terrorists and the nation states that harbor them.  

Clinton was offered OBL by the Sudan in the 90s and REFUSED to go and get him.  HELLO!!!

Dean is stronger on National defense?  What do you base that on?  He has been the governor of a small state with no foreign policy or military experience.  Will Libya or other rouge nations be scared of the threat of force from an anti-war candidate such as dean?  NOPE.  They weren't scared of Clinton and continued their attacks and Clinton is light years ahead of Dean.
We definately are safer than before 9/11 and for Dean to say otherwise is crazy.  I mentioned the 3 states above, the collection of terrorists caught and killed around the world and the collection of massive amounts of weapons out of th hands of terrorists.  Plus Saddam is no longer financially supporting the suicide bombers in Palestine.

your turn.

[jravnsbo]

as for moderator remarks.

I would be tough in enforcing the standards but fair to all, across the spectrum no matter their political opinion.

[Mr. Fresh]

Well, you might have somebody like jrvansbo who has 570 posts and has been a member for a month, so I think Nym's tenure as a emeber here is impressive and earns him the job.

Well, I wasn't being that serious anyway. It would be tough picking moderators in any case, they would get a dangerous amount of power...

I think most of us would not abuse the power, but I am sure some would.

I would vote for Chris.

[Mr. Fresh]

The World needs a Dean Presidency.

Got any backup for that?

Works for me. The man said his peace, let him be.

lol, ok, nevermind that question.

[jravnsbo]

TOUGH TIMES FOR TERRORISTS

By RALPH PETERS
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December 31, 2003 -- EVEN if terrorists attack our homeland before the stroke of midnight, 2003 will still have been a year of remarkable progress on every front in the global War on Terror - and the greatest year for freedom since the Soviet Union's collapse.
A decisive government in Washington, backed by the courage and common sense of the American people, worked with allies around the world to carry the fight to the terrorists' home ground. We continued to seize the strategic initiative from the most implacable enemies America has ever faced.

Unless we choose to defeat ourselves, there is no chance of a final terrorist victory.

In 2003, a new generation of enemies learned that America not only fights ferociously, but follows through with tremendous residual power. In one of history's great paradoxes, the provocation of 9/11 - intended to humble us - unleashed our dormant might and rejuvenated the historical trend toward liberty. The Twin Towers fell, but two years later America towers over the world as never before.

The autumn of 2001 saw our initial counterattacks, while 2002 broadened the international struggle and improved our domestic preparedness. But 2003 was our breakthrough year - 12 months of successes that changed the course of history.

Consider just a few of our achievements:

* We deposed and captured one of the world's worst tyrants, liberating 25 million people and demonstrating the inherent weakness of dictatorships.

 

In doing so, we destroyed a regime that had terrorized its own people and the region. We drew an unmistakable line between America's reinvigorated support for the liberation of the oppressed and "old Europe's" cynical defense of the status quo.

* The stunning campaign that took our troops to Baghdad in just three weeks made it clear to the world that no other state or combination of powers can oppose us militarily and left us with the most experienced, combat-proven forces of our time.

* Our president's courageous decision to target Saddam himself while sparing innocent Iraqis upset the traditional rules of warfare, according to which the draftees die while the ruler survives by signing a peace treaty.

Even though our attempted "decapitation strikes" failed, the message sent to the world's dictators and sponsors of terror had far more force than Western pundits yet realize. And our ultimate, humiliating capture of Saddam left every remaining tyrant worried that he might topple next.

* As a result, Libya has opened its nuclear facilities for inspection, while Iran hastened to strike a no-nukes deal with European governments anxious to save face after their support of Saddam backfired disastrously. North Korea has grown remarkably subdued. Syria treads cautiously. No tyrant wants G.I. Joe as his houseguest.

* Even Saudi Arabia, the great incubator of terror, has become newly cooperative, both because the terrorists - predictably - bit the many hands that fed them and because Riyadh's relative importance has declined precipitously with G.I. Jane in Baghdad.

* We've continued to kill and capture terrorists by the thousands, dismantling their networks, seizing their assets and destroying their bases. Terrorism won't disappear in our lifetimes, but its reach and capabilities have been powerfully reduced.

* Our president had the sound instincts to realize that you can't treat the deep cancer of terrorism with a topical salve. Apprehending terrorists isn't enough. Meaningful treatment of this long-untended disease requires radical surgery and great risk.

Those naive or disingenuous voices insisting that our liberation of Iraq was a diversion from the War on Terror refuse to accept that the problem isn't a few deadly fanatics but a suffocating civilization.

The administration's resolve to force change in the Middle East was as crucial as it was courageous. We can't force Iraqis - or anyone else - to succeed, but we've done what no others have dared: We've given tens of millions of long-oppressed human beings a chance to live in freedom.

Much of this century will be shaped by what they make of that great chance.

* Most vitally for Americans, our government kept our country remarkably safe. Terrorists yearned to strike us massively, to punish us for our successes, while proving that they remain a potent force. Instead, our federal, state and local authorities achieved new, if still imperfect, levels of cooperation and blocked each terrorist attempt to wound us.

Politically motivated critics charge that the War on Terror has been a failure, despite the obvious proof to the contrary: Our enemies have been unable to harm our homeland. And while we will be struck again eventually - no defense is perfect - every day of safety is a victory.

Two Thousand Three was a year that changed the world. For the better. The reverberations will echo for decades.

Not every result will please us. We will not turn broken states into little Americas overnight. Each culture has its own strengths and weaknesses. But we're making a noble effort to help the wretched of the earth make their societies better.

Perfection belongs to God. Progress is the best that humans can do.

Whether facing down Taliban remnants in Afghanistan or shaming the rest of the world into providing more assistance to Africa's struggle against AIDS, we've made an epochal break with the tradition of wealthy states embracing easy short-term solutions instead of engaging long-term problems. Future historians will regard 2003 as one of the dates when history made a great turn, as a global 1776.

Yet 2004 is going to be a year of decision in the War on Terror. As our presidential election approaches, the terrorists remaining at large will sacrifice their last reserves in an effort to dislodge President Bush, freedom's great crusader, from the White House.

The terrorists will seek to convince American voters that the War on Terror is failing, paving the way for the electoral victory of a weakling and allowing them to surge back into vacuums created by an American retreat.

Their last, desperate hope will be to hit us so hard that we elect a coward in place of a hero.

I'm betting on American guts. And glory.

Ralph Peters is the author of "Beyond Baghdad."

[jravnsbo]

A Strategy of Partnerships
Colin L. Powell
From Foreign Affairs, January/February 2004

   
   
 

Summary: Pundits claim that U.S. foreign policy is too focused on unilateral preemption. But George W. Bush's vision -- enshrined in his 2002 National Security Strategy -- is far broader and deeper than that. The president has promoted bold and effective policies to combat terrorism, intervened decisively to prevent regional conflicts, and embraced other major powers such as Russia, China, and India. Above all, he has committed the United States to a strategy of partnerships, which affirms the vital role of international alliances while advancing American interests and principles.

Colin L. Powell is the U.S. Secretary of State.

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20040101faessay83104/colin-l-powell/a-strategy-of-partnerships.html

[Nym90]

Thanks for the endorsement MiamiU! Although I generally tend to favor free speech and wouldn't do too much moderating probably.

[© tweed]

Thanks for the endorsement MiamiU! Although I generally tend to favor free speech and wouldn't do too much moderating probably.

No problem...
Hey I'm flying to Miami tomorrow...change of plans....

[12th Doctor]

(They'll attack Dean on civil unions, the war, the tax-cuts, and draft-dodging among other things).

Bush dodged the draft, too. His daddy got him in the Air National Guard and then he went AWOL for a year. If Clarkk is the nominee, count on that to come out.

National Gaurd isn't dodging the draft.  Get your facts streight

[12th Doctor]

Well, you might have somebody like jrvansbo who has 570 posts and has been a member for a month, so I think Nym's tenure as a emeber here is impressive and earns him the job.

Well, I wasn't being that serious anyway. It would be tough picking moderators in any case, they would get a dangerous amount of power...

I think most of us would not abuse the power, but I am sure some would.

Someone might delete bible quotes or someone else might delete anything irreverent. Or what do you think?

Dave is the moderator.  That's good enough.

I BOW BEFORE YOU SUPREME LORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DarthKosh]

(They'll attack Dean on civil unions, the war, the tax-cuts, and draft-dodging among other things).

Bush dodged the draft, too. His daddy got him in the Air National Guard and then he went AWOL for a year. If Clarkk is the nominee, count on that to come out.

National Gaurd isn't dodging the draft.  Get your facts streight

Getting out because of a bad back and then going skiing is dodging it.

[© tweed]

Well, you might have somebody like jrvansbo who has 570 posts and has been a member for a month, so I think Nym's tenure as a emeber here is impressive and earns him the job.

Well, I wasn't being that serious anyway. It would be tough picking moderators in any case, they would get a dangerous amount of power...

I think most of us would not abuse the power, but I am sure some would.

Someone might delete bible quotes or someone else might delete anything irreverent. Or what do you think?

Dave is the moderator.  That's good enough.

I BOW BEFORE YOU SUPREME LORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, he is, but he can't be here all that much of the time (he has a life, unlike me), and he can't moderate all that much.  A second moderator would be helpful.

[DarthKosh]

Well, you might have somebody like jrvansbo who has 570 posts and has been a member for a month, so I think Nym's tenure as a emeber here is impressive and earns him the job.

Well, I wasn't being that serious anyway. It would be tough picking moderators in any case, they would get a dangerous amount of power...

I think most of us would not abuse the power, but I am sure some would.

Someone might delete bible quotes or someone else might delete anything irreverent. Or what do you think?

Dave is the moderator.  That's good enough.

I BOW BEFORE YOU SUPREME LORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, he is, but he can't be here all that much of the time (he has a life, unlike me), and he can't moderate all that much.  A second moderator would be helpful.

Begging for the job arn't ya?

[© tweed]

Well, you might have somebody like jrvansbo who has 570 posts and has been a member for a month, so I think Nym's tenure as a emeber here is impressive and earns him the job.

Well, I wasn't being that serious anyway. It would be tough picking moderators in any case, they would get a dangerous amount of power...

I think most of us would not abuse the power, but I am sure some would.

Someone might delete bible quotes or someone else might delete anything irreverent. Or what do you think?

Dave is the moderator.  That's good enough.

I BOW BEFORE YOU SUPREME LORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, he is, but he can't be here all that much of the time (he has a life, unlike me), and he can't moderate all that much.  A second moderator would be helpful.

Begging for the job arn't ya?

No, I nominated Nym90.

[jravnsbo]

Well IF dave needs some help we should do it like a democracy.

Take nominations by a certain date, give a little campaigning time and then take a vote.