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« Reply #125 on: November 15, 2016, 09:55:23 AM »

Tbh, I doubt Bolton or Giuliani could get confirmed.

Do President-elect Pussygrabber and his team know that his nominees need to be confirmed? (And if they know, do they care?)
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« Reply #126 on: November 15, 2016, 10:02:12 AM »

I don't know why Giuliani wouldn't be confirmed.  A Republican Senate isn't going to confirm Giuliani?  Why not?
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« Reply #127 on: November 15, 2016, 10:31:01 AM »

On Predictit, Giuliani being given a 60% chance of being Secretary of State.  Sessions now a plurality favorite for both Defense (narrowly ahead of Talent, 37-33) and Attorney General (narrowly ahead of Gowdy, 43-33).  Michael McCaul now the favorite for Homeland Security, as David Clarke slides.  And Jan Brewer’s now taken the lead away from Palin for Secretary of the Interior.


Doesn't Gowdy hate Washington and want to move back to Spartanburg?

Yes. Which is why he's willing to demote himself to Lieutenant Governor (allegedly) on a joint ticket with his good friend Tim Scott.
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« Reply #128 on: November 15, 2016, 10:34:08 AM »

Tbh, I doubt Bolton or Giuliani could get confirmed.

I don't know why Giuliani wouldn't be confirmed.  A Republican Senate isn't going to confirm Giuliani?  Why not?


I just remembered that in addition to being an authoritarian fascist, Giuliani is pro-choice. This seems like something on which progressives could ally with religious conservatives and libertarians: it would probably be doable to convince Paul, Cruz, Lee, Sasse, and maybe a few others to vote against Giuliani. And from a pragmatic/PR point of view, it would be much better to have a theocratic attorney general going after women for having miscarriages than having Giuliani trying to indict all of Trump's enemies.
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« Reply #129 on: November 15, 2016, 10:38:06 AM »

Tbh, I doubt Bolton or Giuliani could get confirmed.

I don't know why Giuliani wouldn't be confirmed.  A Republican Senate isn't going to confirm Giuliani?  Why not?


I just remembered that in addition to being an authoritarian fascist, Giuliani is pro-choice. This seems like something on which progressives could ally with religious conservatives and libertarians: it would probably be doable to convince Paul, Cruz, Lee, Sasse, and maybe a few others to vote against Giuliani. And from a pragmatic/PR point of view, it would be much better to have a theocratic attorney general going after women for having miscarriages than having Giuliani trying to indict all of Trump's enemies.

Not sure I follow your line of thinking. Wouldn't it be better to have Giuliani at State, then?
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« Reply #130 on: November 15, 2016, 10:45:05 AM »

Tbh, I doubt Bolton or Giuliani could get confirmed.

I don't know why Giuliani wouldn't be confirmed.  A Republican Senate isn't going to confirm Giuliani?  Why not?


I just remembered that in addition to being an authoritarian fascist, Giuliani is pro-choice. This seems like something on which progressives could ally with religious conservatives and libertarians: it would probably be doable to convince Paul, Cruz, Lee, Sasse, and maybe a few others to vote against Giuliani. And from a pragmatic/PR point of view, it would be much better to have a theocratic attorney general going after women for having miscarriages than having Giuliani trying to indict all of Trump's enemies.

But all the buzz about Giuliani as Attorney General died yesterday, as discussed in this thread.  It now looks like he'll be picked for Secretary of State instead, and I don't see any of the Senators you mentioned voting against him for that job.  They won't sink him over abortion, if it's for Secretary of State.  Paul and Lee voted to confirm John Kerry as SoS, and I don't see them backing Kerry but not Giuliani.
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« Reply #131 on: November 15, 2016, 10:47:13 AM »

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« Reply #132 on: November 15, 2016, 10:52:26 AM »


Ha, OK, maybe I was wrong on Paul.  Tongue

I still don't think Giuliani will have trouble being confirmed, unless there's some new scandal about him out there that we haven't heard of yet.
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« Reply #133 on: November 15, 2016, 10:57:46 AM »

I wonder that former Senator Scott Brown isn’t mentioned at all for a cabinet post? He also came out early to endorse Mr. Drumpf. A wildcard: He becomes Secretary of State.
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« Reply #134 on: November 15, 2016, 11:02:01 AM »

It's easier for Rand to influence because the President is of his own party and John Kerry isn't nearly as much of a neocon as those two.
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« Reply #135 on: November 15, 2016, 11:19:52 AM »

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/306045-carson-turned-down-offer-to-serve-in-trump-administration-report

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Why did he run for President then? Would be funny if it wasn't terrifying
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« Reply #136 on: November 15, 2016, 11:20:24 AM »

I don't know why Giuliani wouldn't be confirmed.  A Republican Senate isn't going to confirm Giuliani?  Why not?

All it would take is 3 GOP defectors.
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« Reply #137 on: November 15, 2016, 11:21:22 AM »

It took the threat of nominating John Bolton for me to welcome possible Sec of State Rudy Giuliani with open arms.
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« Reply #138 on: November 15, 2016, 11:21:46 AM »

I don't know why Giuliani wouldn't be confirmed.  A Republican Senate isn't going to confirm Giuliani?  Why not?

All it would take is 3 GOP defectors.

Aren't there a few Democrats who are (relatively) buddy-buddy with Giuliani from back when?
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« Reply #139 on: November 15, 2016, 11:27:23 AM »

I don't know why Giuliani wouldn't be confirmed.  A Republican Senate isn't going to confirm Giuliani?  Why not?

All it would take is 3 GOP defectors.

That's assuming every single Democrat (and Independent) votes no.  Why would that happen?  Most Cabinet appointees get bipartisan support.  Hillary Clinton was confirmed as SoS by a vote of 94-2, for example.  If some brand new scandal emerges on Giuliani, then sure, that's a problem.  But Trump is going to have an awful lot of bad Cabinet picks, and I don't see what makes Giuliani so uniquely awful a choice that he's going to spark unified Democratic opposition.  They'll find some other nominee to draw their line in the sand over.
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« Reply #140 on: November 15, 2016, 11:28:18 AM »


It's well-established that his "presidential campaign" was actually a promotional tour for his books.
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« Reply #141 on: November 15, 2016, 11:30:26 AM »

Now that Carson seems to have taken himself out of the running for HHS, Bobby Jindal has taken the lead in Predictit's market for that job.  Betsy McCaughey's in second place.
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« Reply #142 on: November 15, 2016, 11:37:41 AM »

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Giuliani took money from Qatar, Venezuela, Iranian exiles: His foreign clientele could present conflicts of interest as secretary of state.
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« Reply #143 on: November 15, 2016, 11:39:27 AM »

does that mean HRC is in again for SOS?
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« Reply #144 on: November 15, 2016, 11:41:44 AM »

I do wish Richard Haas was the one who was about to picked right now instead of Giuliani.

It would have been pretty nice to see the President of the Council on Foreign Relations running....well...foreign relations and whatnot.
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« Reply #145 on: November 15, 2016, 11:43:27 AM »


Ouch. Explains Paul's reluctance...
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« Reply #146 on: November 15, 2016, 11:47:22 AM »


Neither did Trump. So what difference does it make? Tongue
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« Reply #147 on: November 15, 2016, 11:53:56 AM »

With Paul opposing both Bolton and Giuliani, would be hard to see either get out of the committee.

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« Reply #148 on: November 15, 2016, 11:55:03 AM »


This is a good thing
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« Reply #149 on: November 15, 2016, 11:57:34 AM »

With Paul opposing both Bolton and Giuliani, would be hard to see either get out of the committee.

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So, Corker then?
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