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« Reply #1300 on: May 05, 2024, 12:24:56 PM »

The reality of Chisti's "personal statement" was so wretchedly anticlimactic it became hilarious.
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« Reply #1301 on: May 05, 2024, 04:29:23 PM »

To break character - it’s his willingness to make himself look ridiculous in public that leaves him oddly endearing.

In other party news: this week is the deadline for the Member for Plymouth Moor View to reveal his sources to the government inquiry, or risk jail time…
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« Reply #1302 on: May 06, 2024, 12:25:54 AM »

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« Reply #1303 on: May 06, 2024, 02:42:38 AM »

The Coalition of Chaos line is now being peddled, and it appears to be on the back of the laughable Sky News projection and such like.
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« Reply #1304 on: May 06, 2024, 05:50:39 AM »

The Coalition of Chaos line is now being peddled, and it appears to be on the back of the laughable Sky News projection and such like.

At this point peddling that line might just make more people vote Labour, to make sure they win by so much they definitely get an absolute majority, although most likely it will change nobody's behaviour.
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« Reply #1305 on: May 06, 2024, 06:16:37 AM »

The Coalition of Chaos line is now being peddled, and it appears to be on the back of the laughable Sky News projection and such like.
"History repeats itself, first as a tragedy, then as a farce"
Like, do they think the SNP is as scary as it was a decade ago?
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« Reply #1306 on: May 06, 2024, 08:06:18 AM »
« Edited: May 06, 2024, 12:57:08 PM by Oryxslayer »

The Coalition of Chaos line is now being peddled, and it appears to be on the back of the laughable Sky News projection and such like.
"History repeats itself, first as a tragedy, then as a farce"
Like, do they think the SNP is as scary as it was a decade ago?

The SNP boogyman has only faded cause independence has been forgotten with time, it arguably works better in Scotland today than in 2014 - where the SNP never stopped being relevant.

No, the hilarity of a coalition of chaos message is that it only works when you are ahead, which the Conservatives are not even in the hilariously awful 'estimate.' If not, then it benefits your opponent. Cause it is a message of consolidating around a perceived leader, not one for a comeback.
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« Reply #1307 on: May 06, 2024, 12:08:29 PM »

Besides that, you can't seriously look at the last years and come to the conclusion, that the Tories are somehow a bulwark against "chaos".
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« Reply #1308 on: May 06, 2024, 12:32:47 PM »

Even in 2017, the SNP were no longer as scary to many English voters as they were in 2015.

These days, a shrug is likely to be the commonest response.
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« Reply #1309 on: May 07, 2024, 11:46:14 PM »

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-property-guru-hit-45million-32755855

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« Reply #1310 on: May 08, 2024, 03:17:58 AM »

Lot of chatter that Andy Street might be offered the selection in Solihull West.

Sitting MP for West Bromwich East, Nicola Richards, has been eying the seat for a while, but the sitting Solihull MP, Julian Knight, has reportedly threatened to resign and trigger a by-election (which the Lib Dem’s would stand a good chance in) if she’s selected.

This is largely via Michael Crick, so take with several grains of salt.
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« Reply #1311 on: May 08, 2024, 07:00:31 AM »

Lot of chatter that Andy Street might be offered the selection in Solihull West.

Sitting MP for West Bromwich East, Nicola Richards, has been eying the seat for a while, but the sitting Solihull MP, Julian Knight, has reportedly threatened to resign and trigger a by-election (which the Lib Dem’s would stand a good chance in) if she’s selected.

This is largely via Michael Crick, so take with several grains of salt.

This speculation started the moment it looked like Street could lose on Saturday.  It honestly makes a good deal of sense,  if you go in with the idea that Street wants to continue his political career. However,  there's a good chance he just wants to walk away. Or want a seat in the lords. Mayoral experience also makes him not like other new recruits, he'd probably need the promise of some shadow role to justify it to himself.
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« Reply #1312 on: May 08, 2024, 08:07:13 AM »

Street might also want to become an MP, but not just yet.

Let the Tories bottom out first.
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« Reply #1313 on: May 08, 2024, 08:23:56 AM »

Street might also want to become an MP, but not just yet.

Let the Tories bottom out first.

He’s 60 years old to be fair, I’m not sure he’d have another chance after this to enter parliament and have the prospect at any positions.
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« Reply #1314 on: May 08, 2024, 08:27:55 AM »

Genuinely did not know he was that old tbh (and he doesn't really look it either) Starmer and Corbyn have one thing in common, in that they show older people *can* still lead political parties these days.
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« Reply #1315 on: May 08, 2024, 08:42:42 AM »

Genuinely did not know he was that old tbh (and he doesn't really look it either) Starmer and Corbyn have one thing in common, in that they show older people *can* still lead political parties these days.

Ming Campbell must be seething right now.
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« Reply #1316 on: May 08, 2024, 08:57:08 AM »

Though he is one of those unfortunates who could have passed for 80 when they were 50.
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« Reply #1317 on: May 08, 2024, 09:03:26 AM »

Though he is one of those unfortunates who could have passed for 80 when they were 50.

He once successfully ran against O. J. Simpson. Not in an election.
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« Reply #1318 on: May 08, 2024, 11:29:08 AM »

This speculation started the moment it looked like Street could lose on Saturday.  It honestly makes a good deal of sense,  if you go in with the idea that Street wants to continue his political career. However,  there's a good chance he just wants to walk away. Or want a seat in the lords. Mayoral experience also makes him not like other new recruits, he'd probably need the promise of some shadow role to justify it to himself.

Honestly, given his decent reputation, and the coming clear-out of parliamentary talent in the party, he could probably lay claim to the shadow levelling up brief (or whatever it’s called next), whether he’s sitting in the Commons or Lords.

Fabricant isn’t going anywhere, so maybe a shift to London actually works for him?

Zero judgement if he decides to step aside though - being in opposition saps the soul, and if past is prologue, it’s not going to be a fun couple of years on the Tory benches, especially in that first few years.
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« Reply #1319 on: May 08, 2024, 04:07:35 PM »

Also does any promise from Sunak really mean anything? If the right of the party get the leadership they might decide to not appoint Street who is clearly not on the right: or indeed completely move away from the levelling up rhetoric
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« Reply #1320 on: May 09, 2024, 03:13:07 AM »

Nadhim Zahawi’s standing down. Very… Zahawi retirement statement, lots of awkwardly inserted Shakespeare references, and some odd head-shaving anecdotes to pivot to his childhood in Baghdad.

Wonder whether the open seat is more favourable to the local Lib Dems, or if they’d have rather run against Zahawi, post tax-scandal. They’ve got a hefty majority on the local council, but have had to tussle with Labour (who don’t hold a single council seat) for second place at the constituency level.
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« Reply #1321 on: May 09, 2024, 03:17:48 AM »

Nadhim Zahawi’s standing down. Very… Zahawi retirement statement, lots of awkwardly inserted Shakespeare references, and some odd head-shaving anecdotes to pivot to his childhood in Baghdad.

Wonder whether the open seat is more favourable to the local Lib Dems, or if they’d have rather run against Zahawi, post tax-scandal. They’ve got a hefty majority on the local council, but have had to tussle with Labour (who don’t hold a single council seat) for second place at the constituency level.

That is someone who really did not live up to the hype.
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« Reply #1322 on: May 09, 2024, 07:36:58 AM »

Nadhim Zahawi’s standing down. Very… Zahawi retirement statement, lots of awkwardly inserted Shakespeare references, and some odd head-shaving anecdotes to pivot to his childhood in Baghdad.

Wonder whether the open seat is more favourable to the local Lib Dems, or if they’d have rather run against Zahawi, post tax-scandal. They’ve got a hefty majority on the local council, but have had to tussle with Labour (who don’t hold a single council seat) for second place at the constituency level.

IIRC last year the Lib-Dems gave Zahawi partial credit for their council majority.  I think they would have wanted him to stand initially,  but since they have been targeting the constituency for a while,  it may no longer matter.
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« Reply #1323 on: May 09, 2024, 09:28:19 AM »

Well, if Andy Street really *does* want a seat in the Commons so soon.....
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« Reply #1324 on: May 14, 2024, 11:11:13 AM »

I see the Minister for Common Sense is taking on the brave fight against woke civil service rainbow lanyards. Lol.
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