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Beet
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« on: January 12, 2017, 02:47:58 PM »

Conservatives believe what Clapper says now? The dossier is real. The explosive facts about Trump's hotel activities contained within are unverified. That doesn't mean it's necessarily fake. They could very well be real, it could very well be false, but it hasn't been proven either way. So it can't be said to be fake in either case. The author of the memo, however, is not anonymous, has a good reputation, and has provided significant, authentic information in the past.

If there is even a chance it's real, this is a major problem, since our CIC is compromised to a foreign superpower. The best thing to do would be to get it all out now.
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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2017, 05:51:27 PM »

Conservatives believe what Clapper says now? The dossier is real. The explosive facts about Trump's hotel activities contained within are unverified. That doesn't mean it's necessarily fake. They could very well be real, it could very well be false, but it hasn't been proven either way. So it can't be said to be fake in either case. The author of the memo, however, is not anonymous, has a good reputation, and has provided significant, authentic information in the past.

If there is even a chance it's real, this is a major problem, since our CIC is compromised to a foreign superpower. The best thing to do would be to get it all out now.

Nope, The burden of proof always falls on the accuser.

Right, so anyone who accuses it of being fake has to prove that it is.
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Beet
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2017, 05:54:35 PM »

Conservatives believe what Clapper says now? The dossier is real. The explosive facts about Trump's hotel activities contained within are unverified. That doesn't mean it's necessarily fake. They could very well be real, it could very well be false, but it hasn't been proven either way. So it can't be said to be fake in either case. The author of the memo, however, is not anonymous, has a good reputation, and has provided significant, authentic information in the past.

If there is even a chance it's real, this is a major problem, since our CIC is compromised to a foreign superpower. The best thing to do would be to get it all out now.

Nope, The burden of proof always falls on the accuser.

Right, so anyone who accuses it of being fake has to prove that it is.

Great standard. I guess we needed the $2 trillion Iraq war to prove that they didn't have WMD.

Or we could have just realized that possibly having WMD is no justification for a $2 trillion war.
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Beet
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2017, 08:53:24 PM »

Conservatives believe what Clapper says now? The dossier is real. The explosive facts about Trump's hotel activities contained within are unverified. That doesn't mean it's necessarily fake. They could very well be real, it could very well be false, but it hasn't been proven either way. So it can't be said to be fake in either case. The author of the memo, however, is not anonymous, has a good reputation, and has provided significant, authentic information in the past.

If there is even a chance it's real, this is a major problem, since our CIC is compromised to a foreign superpower. The best thing to do would be to get it all out now.

Nope, The burden of proof always falls on the accuser.

Right, so anyone who accuses it of being fake has to prove that it is.

Roll Eyes

So you're fine with there being a 50% chance the president is being blackmailed by Russia?
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