The TrumpCare comes back from the dead (...and lives!) thread

[Brittain33]

I admit, when Ryan said he supported Trump because "he'll sign the bills we send him" as a Democrat I found that terrifying and depressingly plausible.

The reality has been much more fun.

[Brittain33]

Billy Long's daughter has cancer so he is "woke" to the pre-existing conditions issue.

[Brittain33]

This feels like watching the Trump campaign in 2016. It's very entertaining to watch it drag on and destroy the party but every day longer it lives brings it closer to the cataclysm of actual passage.

[Brittain33]

They had seven years to come up with a coherent ~conservative health care solution~. SEVEN ING YEARS OF CONSTANTLY RUNNING ON OPPOSING THE ACA. Is this turkey all they're capable of?! Is it all they want to be capable of?! Why the hell didn't they prepare a halfway acceptable bill two, or five, or seven years ago that they could pass when they got a Republican trifecta?! Why didn't they spend any of that seven years coming up with something that wouldn't cause people to die in a heap if passed?

Any healthcare solution that does not involve more government will be met with accusations of letting people die.

Which is why it's unfortunate that conservatives campaigned against Obamacare by claiming that fewer people would die, i.e. "stop the death panels" and "coverage isn't good enough." Republicans set this trap for themselves. 

[Brittain33]

Ok, I guess it passes and then if it dies in the Senate, all the moderate reps say they were shocked when the CBO score came out and showed later it was a bad bill.

[Brittain33]

Will Hurd is a NO.

https://twitter.com/TexasTribAbby/status/860193042296393728

FF

[Brittain33]

And Hurd wasn't even on the "Unsure" or "Lean Yes" lists as far as I can tell.

Fuller added him to "Lean Yes" 45 minutes ago from not on the map.

[Brittain33]

Congratulations, klartext and krazen. You may now accept your accolades.

[Brittain33]

What the House passed was written so as to only consist of stuff that would be considered "budgetary" in nature.

That would require a broad interpretation similar to the broad interpretation of the "interstate commerce clause" that has not historically been applied in reconciliation rules. If allowing states to get waivers to exempt insurers from offering minimum defined benefits is grounds for reconciliation because there is some connection with government spending somewhere, then you can ban gay marriage, legalize marijuana, and rename a post office for Satan under reconciliation laws and the filibuster is a dead letter.

[Brittain33]

Democratic senators spent months working with Republican senators with Obama's blessing on health care before the Republicans walked out.

[Brittain33]

https://youtu.be/NQYCT2HEfhQ?t=869

A true luminary in the Republican Party

In an mirror-1894esque wave, I suppose he could go down

Involuntary screams and moans of disgust from the audience.

[Brittain33]

The House will fall in line..  They've already voted for a bill, the ads are already going to be run no matter what.  They have nothing to lose now.

The moderates, yes. But the freedom caucus doesn't care about electoral stuff. All of them are in Uber-safe districts that want to see people dying in the street.

I expect that *something* will pass Congress, either this year or next. No one wants to own failure—including the HFC—and their negotiation cards have an expiration date.

[Brittain33]

I can just hear her a annoying trembling voice right now "Iii aaam oopen toooo phaaasinggg ooutt mmeeedicareee ooverrr sssevennnn yearssss".

You're aware that's a medical condition she has?