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« on: March 04, 2014, 10:58:37 PM »

Where is the redraft process in the Constitution? 
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2014, 11:05:50 PM »

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I don't believe it makes sense that the mere fact that the first six people to vote are unanimous means the vote change period is cancelled.
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2014, 12:45:02 AM »

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I don't believe it makes sense that the mere fact that the first six people to vote are unanimous means the vote change period is cancelled.

I am afraid, I am going to have judge this amendment as hostile.

The vote change period only is present on veto overrides and final votes anyway. Amendments, nominee confirmation and such forth it is not even present at all. In fact I sense a correlation based on the time length perhaps that the longer the vote, the presence of such occurs.

I see the presence of such as an inducement to vote quickly and be attentative. It has also produced some rather short vote times, sub 24 hours even, which is certainly helpful.

If your overriding concern is for fast votes, then you are right. But it strikes me as completely arbitrary that being allowed to change your vote on a final vote would be a good thing in one instance and not be a good thing in another.
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2014, 01:21:04 AM »

AYE
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2014, 09:46:19 AM »

I object.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2014, 03:51:58 PM »

NAY
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2014, 04:57:02 PM »

I hope that those voting AYE on putting back in the wording they just voted to remove at least recognize the irony of their position, given the subject: you change your minds now so that you wont be able to change your minds on some final vote. 
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2014, 05:08:54 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2014, 01:07:07 PM »

I strongly object. This creates more unnecessary downtime.

Hardly unnecessary.
A presidential redraft is like an amendment, but unlike an amendment, if it passes it cannot be amended further, since it then also functions as a final vote on the legislation. Therefore it should have at least as much debate time as an amendment.
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2014, 01:17:50 PM »

AYE ftr

sorry guys, I am having a rough time because of real life stuff.


Shua,

I support your amendment but I am concerned tht since it is a Constitutional process, that such would require a constitutional amendment to be enacted. I assume that procedures beyond those established would be fine, but I am not sure.

I wondered if that would be an issue, but I think this is just specifying the manner that what is in the Constitution is carried out.
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2014, 09:31:02 AM »

Aye
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