Religious fundamentalist calls for non-believers to convert or be killed (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 04, 2024, 12:44:45 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  U.S. General Discussion (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, Chancellor Tanterterg)
  Religious fundamentalist calls for non-believers to convert or be killed (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Religious fundamentalist calls for non-believers to convert or be killed  (Read 3839 times)
🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸
shua
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 25,766
Nepal


Political Matrix
E: 1.29, S: -0.70

WWW
« on: September 03, 2014, 11:40:58 PM »

I don't get it.  Are we scraping the bottom of the "things to be offended by" barrel here?

Is the idea here that wanting them to be converted is a violation of their rights and we should go directly to killing them?  Even if they don't support the military involvement of their government, very few people are standing up for the right of ISIS thugs to have a long and prosperous life. The difference is Duckie Duckerson surmises that maybe a come to Jesus moment might work instead of ammunition.
Logged
🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸
shua
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 25,766
Nepal


Political Matrix
E: 1.29, S: -0.70

WWW
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2014, 12:02:57 AM »

It isn't apologism to claim that its bizarre to talk about converting an enemy under the pain of genocide.  Then again maybe ISIS must be annihilated but we have never  annihilated anyone that are not Native Americans yet. If that's not enough, they brought  conversion in as a sole condition of surrender. Maybe it would be cool if we were governed by Octavian or Richard II. But this isn't 1205 AD or 5 AD.

This. And "convert them or kill them" implies that the problem isn't their violence, but that they believe in the wrong god.

Yeah, this was the most disturbing part of his statement. Apparently if you can convert some ISIS militants to Christianity they're suddenly good people. Roll Eyes

They would at least not be ISIS militants anymore, which is something.
Logged
🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸
shua
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 25,766
Nepal


Political Matrix
E: 1.29, S: -0.70

WWW
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2014, 07:19:05 PM »

Indy, do you think all people who think it might be a good idea to kill ISIS are just as bad as they are, or is this limited to those who are religious?
Logged
🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸
shua
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 25,766
Nepal


Political Matrix
E: 1.29, S: -0.70

WWW
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2014, 07:50:03 PM »
« Edited: September 05, 2014, 08:08:19 PM by shua »

Indy, do you think all people who think it might be a good idea to kill ISIS are just as bad as they are, or is this limited to those who are religious?

I happen to think killing ISIS members is a wonderful idea. I only wish the functioning governments of the Middle East would do so without expecting us to do the job for them.

But suggesting that they should be converted to Christianity in lieu of being killed implies Pastor Phil is more offended by their Mohammedanism than by the egregious war crimes and human rights violations they've committed. It's also a rather inconvenient parroting of ISIS' own message to its victims - convert or be killed.

So believing that the violence of ISIS is related to a specific form of religious ideology, and that a mass conversion of members of ISIS would make a difference to the situation, is what you consider ISIS-like?

Personally I'd like to see half of them convert to Christianity, and the other half become Yahzidis.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.022 seconds with 10 queries.