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muon2
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« on: November 17, 2016, 09:11:40 AM »

Could MN end up voting very slightly to the right of the US ?

The current final margin there is H+1.51

Nationally, Hillary could also end up ahead with about 1.5% when all ballots are counted.

As of this morning according to Leip's page MN has 49.1% of the two party vote for Trump compared to 49.5% for Trump nationally. So at this point it's still to the left.
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2016, 09:38:29 AM »

and with that, republicans lose the PV in 6 of 7 elections, historic margins afaik.

that split happening 2 times in 20 years is something very rare too.....

I have an issue with saying you lose the popular vote when the winner is under 50 by a significant amount. The further away from 50 you are, the less "winning the popular vote" means, and this election more than any other recent election saw a larger dispersal of votes to multiple 3rd party candidates as opposed to just one main one. If Clinton had won 50% of the vote, she probably would've won the Electoral College. That makes 1992, 1996, 2000, and 2016 -four of the past 7 elections - where the person that received the most votes did not achieve a majority.

A Democrat has only gotten a majority of the vote twice in the past 10 elections.

In every other election we have in this country, the candidate with the larger vote share wins the election.   The Presidential vote is the only one where huge chunks of the country can just be written off as irrelevant and the candidate can win with a smaller vote share than the one who got the most votes.  

No matter how you put it....it's a deeply flawed system.

Edit - Not to mention....in practically ANY election where there is a third party candidate(s) that get above 5% of the vote, it becomes practically impossible to get 50% of the vote in the polarized country we live in.

That's not always true in states with runoff elections.
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