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« Reply #75 on: November 02, 2014, 08:50:52 AM »

Actually, that reminds me….while there were some scattered precursor "Update" threads in 2009, "Update" as we know it began on Jan. 17, 2010:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=109091.0

It was really at that point that it became an essentially continuous chronicle of Bushie's life in something like its current state.  So the five year anniversary is coming up in two and a half months.  Any special anniversary episode plans?


I think I'm going to share a series of opebo quotes where had Bushie just listened to him things would be vastly different and in many cases, sunnier.  I wasn't always into Update, but having gone back and read past seasons, when opebo wasn't admiring Bushie for leaching off his family, he was doling out some really sound, realistic advice.
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« Reply #76 on: November 02, 2014, 09:32:36 AM »

The thing about chain restaurants that I think you are all forgetting is that portion sizes there are usually enormous. I suspect that is the real reason the Brown family frequents them exclusively.

That certainly plays into it.

How much does the Clan Bushie tip, I wonder?  In my experience, as a pizza guy in high school and valet in college, the biggest Christians tip horribly.
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« Reply #77 on: November 02, 2014, 09:44:14 AM »

The thing about chain restaurants that I think you are all forgetting is that portion sizes there are usually enormous. I suspect that is the real reason the Brown family frequents them exclusively.

That certainly plays into it.

How much does the Clan Bushie tip, I wonder?  In my experience, as a pizza guy in high school and valet in college, the biggest Christians tip horribly.

We tip based on the service we receive, but usually try to give at least 10-15% unless they are absolutely horrible.

Like I said...

You do understand that servers, for whatever reason, are allowed to be paid far below minimum wage, must deal with many tables and people at a time, are worked ghastly hours, and still have to live off the relative generosity of others, right?  What the hell would qualify as "absolutely horrible" if they get the food to you?  The food is gonna be ready when it's ready, and that has nothing to do with the servers.  I don't ever give less than 25% unless the server literally slapped me across the face.
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« Reply #78 on: November 02, 2014, 09:48:14 AM »

The thing about chain restaurants that I think you are all forgetting is that portion sizes there are usually enormous. I suspect that is the real reason the Brown family frequents them exclusively.

That certainly plays into it.

How much does the Clan Bushie tip, I wonder?  In my experience, as a pizza guy in high school and valet in college, the biggest Christians tip horribly.

Papa Bushie can't tip in excess, hockey. How on earth would he be able to invest in his train room if all his non-Bushie/mama money was going to the pizza guy, and the chili's waitress?

If you can't afford to tip well, you don't go out to eat.  That simple.  It infuriates me how many people go out to eat and then say "Oh I'm sorry, we don't have to money to tip much more than a couple bucks".  It's the most BS thing you can imagine and indicative of a spoiled, indulgent culture that also displays all the worst elements of greed and selfishness. 

Yes, improper tipping happens to be a huge pet peeve of mine. 

Bushie, tell mom and dad that you should be upping that tip to 20%.  It's not Northeastern arrogance or new-timey ignorance, but simply a pure moral argument.  Imagine trying to support a family or household or yourself on the bare-ass minimum of what's socially acceptable to tip?  Would Jesus condone that [Inks]?
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« Reply #79 on: November 02, 2014, 10:01:26 AM »

The thing about chain restaurants that I think you are all forgetting is that portion sizes there are usually enormous. I suspect that is the real reason the Brown family frequents them exclusively.

That certainly plays into it.

How much does the Clan Bushie tip, I wonder?  In my experience, as a pizza guy in high school and valet in college, the biggest Christians tip horribly.

We My parents tip based on the service we receive, but usually try to give at least 10-15% unless they are absolutely horrible.

Like I said...

You do understand that servers, for whatever reason, are allowed to be paid far below minimum wage, must deal with many tables and people at a time, are worked ghastly hours, and still have to live off the relative generosity of others, right?  What the hell would qualify as "absolutely horrible" if they get the food to you?  The food is gonna be ready when it's ready, and that has nothing to do with the servers.  I don't ever give less than 25% unless the server literally slapped me across the face.

Don't harangue Bushie about tipping. It's not like it's ever been his money, anyway.

The next post I implored him to bring up a tip hike to his parents on moral grounds.  If they can't afford it then why are they eating out so damn much? 
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« Reply #80 on: November 02, 2014, 10:12:55 AM »

Lol @ 10% unless they're awful. Good thing you guys go to chain restaurants where staff turnover is high.  You'd be blacklisted otherwise.

Heh, another piece to THAT puzzle I suppose.
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« Reply #81 on: November 02, 2014, 10:17:09 AM »


Protestants are horrible tippers, Lief.  I think it has a lot to do with their fire and brimstone lean when it comes to how the faith is practiced.  A lot of finger-pointing towards inferior sinners.  They deserve their just reward for being so low on the totem pole; and as you know, in conservative America, being poor is wrong.  

Catholics on the other hand always tipped me very well, because they are good at focusing on Jesus and Mary and not the jealous God.  If you focus on Jesus, and do it correctly, you HAVE to tip well... there's no way around it.  Episcopalians are very good at tipping, too, because they are Catholic in all but name, essentially.
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« Reply #82 on: November 02, 2014, 10:19:01 AM »

The thing about chain restaurants that I think you are all forgetting is that portion sizes there are usually enormous. I suspect that is the real reason the Brown family frequents them exclusively.

That certainly plays into it.

How much does the Clan Bushie tip, I wonder?  In my experience, as a pizza guy in high school and valet in college, the biggest Christians tip horribly.

We My parents tip based on the service we receive, but usually try to give at least 10-15% unless they are absolutely horrible.

Like I said...

You do understand that servers, for whatever reason, are allowed to be paid far below minimum wage, must deal with many tables and people at a time, are worked ghastly hours, and still have to live off the relative generosity of others, right?  What the hell would qualify as "absolutely horrible" if they get the food to you?  The food is gonna be ready when it's ready, and that has nothing to do with the servers.  I don't ever give less than 25% unless the server literally slapped me across the face.

Don't harangue Bushie about tipping. It's not like it's ever been his money, anyway.

The next post I implored him to bring up a tip hike to his parents on moral grounds.  If they can't afford it then why are they eating out so damn much?  

Ah, I missed that. I mean, 15% would be okay assuming they rack up a $100 food tab somewhere perhaps, but we all know they're just swimming around in the Chocolate Fountain at Golden Corral, destroying profit margins as-is. Personally, I usually tip around 30% (because I'm dainty, don't eat much and usually eat frugally when out anyway).

I tip 25-30% because I understand how one person can make your night if you are a tip-slave.  And I don't mean just in monetary terms.  A good tip can really put you in a good mood, which is almost as valuable as anything in a serving job.   
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« Reply #83 on: November 02, 2014, 10:20:40 AM »

Jesus, Hokey, breathe a bit. Your becoming Inks-like here.

I said it's a very big pet peeve of mine, Uncle Gramps.  I admit I get worked up over it.  It'd be different if I didn't own it on this issue.
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« Reply #84 on: November 02, 2014, 11:25:46 AM »

The thing about chain restaurants that I think you are all forgetting is that portion sizes there are usually enormous. I suspect that is the real reason the Brown family frequents them exclusively.

That certainly plays into it.

How much does the Clan Bushie tip, I wonder?  In my experience, as a pizza guy in high school and valet in college, the biggest Christians tip horribly.

Papa Bushie can't tip in excess, hockey. How on earth would he be able to invest in his train room if all his non-Bushie/mama money was going to the pizza guy, and the chili's waitress?

If you can't afford to tip well, you don't go out to eat.  That simple.  It infuriates me how many people go out to eat and then say "Oh I'm sorry, we don't have to money to tip much more than a couple bucks".  It's the most BS thing you can imagine and indicative of a spoiled, indulgent culture that also displays all the worst elements of greed and selfishness. 

Yes, improper tipping happens to be a huge pet peeve of mine. 

Bushie, tell mom and dad that you should be upping that tip to 20%.  It's not Northeastern arrogance or new-timey ignorance, but simply a pure moral argument.  Imagine trying to support a family or household or yourself on the bare-ass minimum of what's socially acceptable to tip?  Would Jesus condone that [Inks]?

I wholeheartedly agree. I myself tip at least 20-25% and if my bill wasn't much I'll almost always go over 50%. My point was, is that papa has had to fund his adult son and wife for years, and we know he's not a skilled cook. Thus meaning he's strapped for cash and often eats at chain restaurants. When you're strapped for cash you aren't going to tip well. Even if we all agree he shouldn't eat out if he can't tip, it isn't going to happen.

That is the ultimate statement on all things Update... the point is that we try. 
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« Reply #85 on: November 02, 2014, 12:52:06 PM »

Tipping 10% is not enough in the US? It seems I've learnt something today!

A tip in the United States is not a bonus reward but the sole income of the waiter.

That's what people treat it as, though.  America has a huge problem with treating people who are perceived to be "lower on the totem pole" like complete [Inks].
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« Reply #86 on: November 02, 2014, 12:53:37 PM »

20%? 50%? WTF?

Few things do I despise more than American tipping culture. Just raise the damn prices and pay the waiters properly.

I agree, but we live under the iron fist of free market capitalism, Franzl.  As long as there are families like Bushie's that go to chain restaurants for half their meals it will never change. 
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« Reply #87 on: November 02, 2014, 12:58:37 PM »

20%? 50%? WTF?

Few things do I despise more than American tipping culture. Just raise the damn prices and pay the waiters properly.

I agree, but we live under the iron fist of free market capitalism, Franzl.  As long as there are families like Bushie's that go to chain restaurants for half their meals it will never change. 

I mean, I see the point of a small tip for reasonable service (although here you normally just round up, like from 28€ to 30€), but what happens in the US seems extremely dishonest. If I see something on the menu for $20, then tax is added....and a 20% tip, and I'm not far from $30 when all is said and done.

Yup, that doesn't change the fact that Smilin' Steve doesn't eat this week unless I display the requisite generosity.
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« Reply #88 on: November 02, 2014, 03:20:04 PM »

Luckily not true in Minnesota. Though it's not like $7.75/hour is great either.

Freedom state.  I would still tip 20%.
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« Reply #89 on: November 02, 2014, 05:14:05 PM »

Luckily not true in Minnesota. Though it's not like $7.75/hour is great either.

Freedom state.  I would still tip 20%.

My brother went to school in Grand Forks, ND. He talked about how getting a job at a restaurant or bar in East Grand Forks, which is in Minnesota was considered a great deal because of that and far better than in Grand Forks. Unfortunately East Grand Forks is a small town with nowhere near as many establishments.

Also Tom Emmer in 2010 openly campaigned for dropping tipped employees to a lower minimum wage...prick.

Wow.  Literally campaigning to drop a servers' wages.  The GOP is abominable. 
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« Reply #90 on: November 02, 2014, 05:52:49 PM »

enough f'ing tip talk.

bushie how is your autocadd project coming along for pappa bushie?

It's actually coming along pretty nicely.  I've got them drawn, now I'm just trying to touch them up a bit and then see if I can convert them from a Drawing file (.dwg) which is default for AutoCAD drawings to a .GIF file so I can e-mail them to Dad.

You practically live with the dude.  Just show him.
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« Reply #91 on: November 02, 2014, 06:48:42 PM »

Will you have a prepatory breakfast?
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« Reply #92 on: November 02, 2014, 10:47:48 PM »

As I've mentioned several times, I have a lot of food experience. Waiters and pizza guys are much better off under the current tip culture than they would be under a flat hourly system. How much would waiting tables pay under a flat system? Maybe $10/hour for a plain restaurant up to about $15/hour for fine dining. All documented and taxed appropriately. Leave the waiters alone. They're certainly not making doctor money, but better than they would otherwise.

Well, the idea would be to up their pay to at least minimum wage but be very hush hush about it and let people continue to tip as normal. 
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« Reply #93 on: November 03, 2014, 12:50:54 PM »

-J.J. hasn't eaten in days!  Advance to Wal-Mart and pay $10.
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« Reply #94 on: November 03, 2014, 04:21:55 PM »

Good afternoon, guys.  The lunch hour is about over, but wanted to pop in and say the day is going by very well.  I'm currently training on Microsoft Visio which will take me the rest of the day.  I'll get off here 1700 and head to Grandma's for taco salad.
I thought you didn't like salad.

It's just the normal Bushie taco ingredients sans flour tortilla and instead mashed up into a bowl with tortilla CHIPS.  It's really quite good, and if done correctly can cover all your food groups for a meal. 

Bushie, will you be adding corn and/or tomato to the taco salad? 
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« Reply #95 on: November 03, 2014, 05:39:56 PM »

Bushie family taco salad IIRC is a disgusting slop of beans, beef, ranch dressing (!), corn, and cheese in a tostada bowl that no human being should enjoy.

Ranch?!  Good lord. 
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« Reply #96 on: November 03, 2014, 06:07:17 PM »

Is there lettuce on a taco salad? IIRC, Bushie doesn't like lettuce with dressing and thus doesn't like salad.

He gets a pass for that as lettuce has almost nothing in it. 

I doubt he's tried that mango, yet.  It perturbs me that suggest a tasty and healthful fruit for lunch ad he probably packed Lunchables or something today.
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« Reply #97 on: November 03, 2014, 06:21:27 PM »

Is there lettuce on a taco salad? IIRC, Bushie doesn't like lettuce with dressing and thus doesn't like salad.

He gets a pass for that as lettuce has almost nothing in it. 

I doubt he's tried that mango, yet.  It perturbs me that suggest a tasty and healthful fruit for lunch ad he probably packed Lunchables or something today.

Lettuce is fibrous material and water.

Yea... a little bit of fiber.  Not much more.  He could get that fiber and some vitamins in more tasty vegetables.
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« Reply #98 on: November 04, 2014, 08:51:52 AM »


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« Reply #99 on: November 04, 2014, 07:35:37 PM »

He didn't mean to order the chocolate cake, but he accidentally did without thinking! Whoops! He was always taught not to waste food, so he didn't send it back.

Remember the Dr. Pepper incident at Burger King (I think?) when he pushed the wrong button. Great episode!

One of my favorites.  Our Dear Friend is in the midst of dieting, and one fine day at McDonalds (just lol already) he goes to get his fill of drink and oopsy daisy! we accidentally press the REGULAR Dr. Pepper.  Laughing to himself and asking WWJDWHDP? he doesn't dump out the fountain drink and instead takes a break from the diet to gorge on hamburgers, fries, and carbonated sugar water. 

Such a character.
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