Comparing Bush

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Before Bush became President, I had the feeling that he'd be the worst President we ever had. Despite my amazing low expectations, he's been a worse President than I thought. Obviously option 7.

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Before Bush became President, I had the feeling that he'd be the worst President we ever had. Despite my amazing low expectations, he's been a worse President than I thought. Obviously option 7.

jfern I have a few question for you. First how old are you? I want to know this so I can see if President Bush is the first real President that you have known when you are old enough to figure out and understand politics. Second question is what Presidents have you lived under since age 14?

I remember Clinton and Bush senior being President fairly well. I vaugely remember Reagan. I'm not sure how any of this matters, since the other really bad Presidents were from long ago: Buchanan, Coolidge.

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I agree with most of what you say, J.J.

It's amazing to me how some people have such a lack of historical perspective that they can claim he's the worst president ever, without waiting to see the results of his policies.

Many presidents now considered great were hated while in office, while other highly popular ones fell in favor after their administrations ended.  There's no way to really judge a president's place in history while he is in office.

Bush will be a consequential president, one way or another.  That's why I don't think it's appropriate to rate him as average.  He will not be average.  He will either be a great president, possibly a mixed one, with strong pluses and minuses, or he could conceivably be a terrible one.  But it's too soon to tell.

I think people knew the Roosevelts were going to be great before they left office.

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I think people knew the Roosevelts were going to be great before they left office.

But not at the start of their second terms.  At this point in FDR's second term, he was getting his a** whipped over the court packing plan.  His New Deal was stalled, and he had no effective foreign policy.

There were many who felt about FDR just the way you feel about Bush.  Had he retired in 1940, after 2 terms, his place in history would not be anywhere near where it is.  Although I am a Republican, I have spoken favorably of FDR's leadership in resisting Nazi aggression many times.

In 1940, FDR beat a RINO by a landslide.

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I judge him by the enemies he's made.

The old enemy of my enemy is my friend bullsh**t?

1. You must like Hitler, since the left hates him.

2. Iran and Iraq fought a war for most of the '80s. We've fought two wars with Iraq. Therefore Iran is our best ally.

3. Since Stalin and Hitler were enemies, one of them must be your friend.

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The enemy of my enemy is my friend to the extent that he hurts my enemy.

So if it was a secular liberal gay black jew versus Hitler, you'd definitely be rooting for Hitler?