Canadian Liberal Leadership Election 2013

[Hatman 🍁]

I really want Dalton and David to run. It was fun when two brothers ran against eachother in Britain.

[Hatman 🍁]

Liberals have to hope Trudeau runs, or else there will be little media interest in this race.

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Again, I remind to English Canadians than a Trudeau is totally unacceptable to French Québécois.

Shh!

Meh, who left in the Liberals wouldn't be unacceptable to Quebec?

[Hatman 🍁]

Wow. Big shocker for sure. This will make for an interesting race (especially if Trudeau stays out).

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Crossposting this Forum poll from the General thread.

http://www.forumresearch.com/forms/News%20Archives/News%20Releases/00294_Canada-wide_-_Federal_Political_Issues_%28Forum_Research%29.pdf


Maybe when Hatman has the time he can plug both results into his model?

I don't have a federal model. Making predictions at this point is useless, mostly because we don't know what the ridings will look like yet.

[Hatman 🍁]

Plugging it into the 2011 model?

Dont have one. I started my predictions after the election for the provincial races.

[Hatman 🍁]

The FR poll seems to suggest a 10 point swing from the NDP to the Liberals in Quebec if Trudeau was leader.

[Hatman 🍁]

that's one weird map

[Hatman 🍁]

The other parties are licking their lips with glee that the Liberals might go for a gaffe prone airhead like Justin Trudeau as their leader.

Imagine the once great Liberal Party that was once associated with competent fiscal management etc...led by someone whose only qualifiaction is having been a substitute drama teacher in a high school.

As flakey as he is, he is their best hope. I guess that tells you more about the state of the Liberals than anything.

[Hatman 🍁]

One MP who shall remain nameless told me that Trudeau inherited his flakiness from his mother.

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Yikes.

[Hatman 🍁]

Wrong thread. This is LPC, not OLP.

Oops. Moved it.

[Hatman 🍁]

What interests me is how none of these ABJ people have any factional ties, therefore neither infrastructure nor $$$ will be forthcoming. Whereas last time the Chretienites splintered between Rae and Dion with JC himself backing Rae and the Martinets backing Iggy.

Garneau: He's also not that great a politician. (Nearly losing WVM, among other things) The one putting up more of a policy fight will be MHF.

Actually, Garneau should have lost his riding. It was NDP target #2 on the island. The fact that he kept it shows some personal strength.

[Hatman 🍁]

I guess it's a lot like Toronto Centre then.

[Hatman 🍁]

The same people who were attracted to Layton's charisma are also attracted to Trudeau's. There is a large percentage of people who are on the non ideological-left that can switch between both parties.

[Hatman 🍁]

Trudeau is one gaffe away from being a flavour of the month. But, he needs to make that gaffe...

[Hatman 🍁]

Well, I'm voting for Martha. Because I can.

lol

[Hatman 🍁]

Yeah, I'm actually signed up to vote in this thing; but I'm not in love with any of the candidates. I have no clue who I'll actually vote for. Of course, I can't bring myself to care about this.

Why not Trudeau? He's an awful pill to swallow, but he's your only hope.

[Hatman 🍁]

Somehow I would think that Justin Trudeau would be exactly the kind of politician and person that would make Hash throw up.

Yes, but he has no choice if he wants to be a Liberal and wants the Liberals to win.

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Brison took his time. Any idea what he was playing at?

Brison's on the right of the party. I imagine he was waiting until Trudeau's election appeared inevitable.

If that were the case, he should have endorsed him the second he announced his bid

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Campbell: Makes sense; he's a former mayor of her city, and I think a former New Democrat, so he's probably pro merger.

[Hatman 🍁]

Better yet, a delegated convention.

Why do you hate democracy?

[Hatman 🍁]

Can anyone tell this uninformed Brit what's so great about Justin Trudeau?

What was so great about George W. Bush?

[Hatman 🍁]

I wish this were true: http://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2013/03/26/liberal_leadership_candidate_joyce_murray_our_numbers_are_higher_than_anyone_elses.html

[Hatman 🍁]

As a dipper, I'm not backing her for her policies. She could be the next coming of Hitler, and I would back her if she had a shot at beating Trudeau. Trudeau is the only hope the Liberals have of winning or even finishing 2nd in the next election.