Huckabee's Campaign: Welfare for old white people, but not for "those people"

[Lief 🗽]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/us/politics/huckabee-vows-to-protect-programs-for-older-americans.html?referrer=&_r=1

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Of course the "those people" part is merely subtext here, but it's obvious what he's doing.

[bobloblaw]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/us/politics/huckabee-vows-to-protect-programs-for-older-americans.html?referrer=&_r=1

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Of course the "those people" part is merely subtext here, but it's obvious what he's doing.

So liberals are now against Social Security and Medicare???

I do think the Club Growth should have as their strategy for entitlement reform make it a white versus nonwhite issue where nonwhites are paying for the retirement of whites.

[RI]

He never said anything about "those people." I don't understand what the point of this thread is.

[Rockefeller GOP]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/us/politics/huckabee-vows-to-protect-programs-for-older-americans.html?referrer=&_r=1

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Of course the "those people" part is merely subtext here, but it's obvious what he's doing.

So liberals are now against Social Security and Medicare???

I do think the Club Growth should have as their strategy for entitlement reform make it a white versus nonwhite issue where nonwhites are paying for the retirement of whites.

As if Lief's OP weren't stupid enough ... Did you actually just type that last paragraph?!  Jesus, you keep proving over and over again why the GOP needs to drop you sorry racists like a ton of bricks and go back to relying on high suburban margins.

[Skye]

Am I missing something here? The article says nothing about "those people" (Who are you referring to anyway? Blacks? Asians? Immigrants?).

[TomC]

If "those people" means Washington insiders, the title makes complete sense.

[Lief 🗽]

It's very obvious what he's doing. He doesn't have to come out and say this explicitly. The idea is that his (old, white) audience is deserving of their benefits and their welfare... the rest is only said implicitly.

[NeverAgain]

It's very obvious what he's doing. He doesn't have to come out and say this explicitly. The idea is that his (old, white) audience is deserving of their benefits and their welfare... the rest is only said implicitly.

Well, there are more white people numberwise on government assistance programs...

[RFayette 🇻🇦]

Geez, he just said "Congressional pensions."  He didn't say welfare which could be a coded word.  Congressional pensions isn't a code word at all!

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

So, Lief, will you be supporting the end of the racist Social Security and Medicare programs?

Huckabee's statement is ridiculous enough on its own, you don't need to embellish it.

[IceSpear]

Well, at least the poor white Republicans have an excuse to support Huckabee, unlike being useful idiots for corporate shills like RMoney.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/us/politics/huckabee-vows-to-protect-programs-for-older-americans.html?referrer=&_r=1

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Of course the "those people" part is merely subtext here, but it's obvious what he's doing.

So liberals are now against Social Security and Medicare???

I do think the Club Growth should have as their strategy for entitlement reform make it a white versus nonwhite issue where nonwhites are paying for the retirement of whites.

As if Lief's OP weren't stupid enough ... Did you actually just type that last paragraph?!  Jesus, you keep proving over and over again why the GOP needs to drop you sorry racists like a ton of bricks and go back to relying on high suburban margins.

Which for a long time the GOP achieved through exploiting the fears of middle class whites regarding crime and busing. Granted it is different now, younger generations and those areas are more diverse then they used to be.

[Rockefeller GOP]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/us/politics/huckabee-vows-to-protect-programs-for-older-americans.html?referrer=&_r=1

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Of course the "those people" part is merely subtext here, but it's obvious what he's doing.

So liberals are now against Social Security and Medicare???

I do think the Club Growth should have as their strategy for entitlement reform make it a white versus nonwhite issue where nonwhites are paying for the retirement of whites.

As if Lief's OP weren't stupid enough ... Did you actually just type that last paragraph?!  Jesus, you keep proving over and over again why the GOP needs to drop you sorry racists like a ton of bricks and go back to relying on high suburban margins.

Which for a long time the GOP achieved through exploiting the fears of middle class whites regarding crime and busing. Granted it is different now, younger generations and those areas are more diverse then they used to be.

The method is less important to me than the results.  The college educated and affluent vote a LOT more frequently than other groups, and suburbanites make up a disproportionate chunk of the electorate on Election Day; we used to run up our margins with both groups.

[Mr. Illini]

"Don't take my benefits away, take away his!"

"Don't tell me how to live my life, tell him!"

"Don't send my kids to war, send his!"

Vote Republican.

[Türkisblau]

He never said anything about "those people." I don't understand what the point of this thread is.

[Türkisblau]

He never said anything about "those people." I don't understand what the point of this thread is.

Well, Lief tries to drag Republicans through the mire. Nothing to see here, move along.

This doesn't even make sense though. There is literally nothing to talk about here other than it being refreshing that a Republican is willing to strongly support not cutting Social Security...

[Mister Mets]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/us/politics/huckabee-vows-to-protect-programs-for-older-americans.html?referrer=&_r=1

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Of course the "those people" part is merely subtext here, but it's obvious what he's doing.

If you have something in quotation marks, it appears to be a direct quote. That's just unethical.

[Maxwell]

He never said anything about "those people." I don't understand what the point of this thread is.

Well, Lief tries to drag Republicans through the mire. Nothing to see here, move along.

This doesn't even make sense though. There is literally nothing to talk about here other than it being refreshing that a Republican is willing to strongly support not cutting Social Security...

Do you think if Republicans sent him a bill cutting social security that he wouldn't sign it?

[CountryClassSF]

Do African Americans not collect Social Security and Medicare or am I missing something? Honestly, you have to be on the lookout for race in places it doesn't exist to draw this conclusion

[Ebsy]

Do African Americans not collect Social Security and Medicare or am I missing something? Honestly, you have to be on the lookout for race in places it doesn't exist to draw this conclusion

The Silents and Early Baby Boomers are much whiter than the populace as a whole.

[Türkisblau]

He never said anything about "those people." I don't understand what the point of this thread is.

Well, Lief tries to drag Republicans through the mire. Nothing to see here, move along.

This doesn't even make sense though. There is literally nothing to talk about here other than it being refreshing that a Republican is willing to strongly support not cutting Social Security...

Do you think if Republicans sent him a bill cutting social security that he wouldn't sign it?

Considering that Social Security is incredibly popular even among Republican voters, no I don't think he would.

[Torie]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/us/politics/huckabee-vows-to-protect-programs-for-older-americans.html?referrer=&_r=1

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Of course the "those people" part is merely subtext here, but it's obvious what he's doing.

Other than musing about if there are to be cuts, let it be Congressional pensions, Huckabee is just agreeing with the Democrats here, more or less. He certainly is not agreeing with me, since I think both programs should be more means tested. Nice try though.

[All Along The Watchtower]

A large part of the appeal of Social Security and Medicare is that they are essentially universal. Furthermore, at least in Social Security's case, you "get what you contribute" (beyond the minimum and maximum limits, of course!). ) In other words, SS and Medicare are social insurance programs that are called "entitlements", but they are (generally speaking) earned entitlements. It's that combination of being something that all Americans have (or will have) access to, and the idea that it is something that all working Americans have "earned", that makes them popular, IMO.

"Welfare" programs that are targeted to specific parts of the population are less popular among white working and middle-class Americans- even if they (as a group)  benefit from them. Easier to demonize a program that you're not using yourself. Food stamps, or TANF, or other such programs, are written off as "handouts" to the "undeserving" poor who (allegedly) didn't earn what they are receiving from the"taxpayers" or "stakeholders."

[Mr. Reactionary]

Dog whistles!Muh Lee Atwater! Derp.