1964: Nixon Tries Again
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 05, 2024, 11:44:37 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion
  Election What-ifs?
  Past Election What-ifs (US) (Moderator: Dereich)
  1964: Nixon Tries Again
« previous next »
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: 1964: Nixon Tries Again  (Read 1656 times)
Mr. Smith
MormDem
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 33,485
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: November 29, 2014, 06:08:41 PM »

Not sure if this was done, but what if Richard Nixon decides again to go for President instead of "retire".

How would that go? And this could be a 1960 rematch assuming Kennedy lives, or against LBJ.

Discuss with maps
Logged
Del Tachi
Republican95
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 18,026
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.52, S: 1.46

P P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2014, 04:05:10 PM »

In a rematch against Kennedy, Nixon wins.  If its the same as OTL and he's running against Johnson, Johnson still wins but in a much less amazing fashion. 
Logged
President Johnson
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 29,386
Germany


Political Matrix
E: -3.23, S: -4.70


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2014, 02:26:23 PM »

In a rematch against Kennedy, Nixon wins.  If its the same as OTL and he's running against Johnson, Johnson still wins but in a much less amazing fashion. 

Nixon looses again against Kennedy by a larger margin than in 1960. And no chance against LBJ, although Nixon would have done better than Goldwater. Especially in the Monatain states.
Logged
MATTROSE94
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,791
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -5.29, S: -6.43

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2014, 08:22:08 PM »
« Edited: December 26, 2014, 08:24:37 PM by MATTROSE94 »


President Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)/Senator Hubert Humphrey (D-MN): 411 Electoral Votes (57.5%)
Former Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Governor William Scranton (R-PA): 102 Electoral Votes (38.9%)
John Kasper (National States Rights-NY)/J. B. Stoner (National States Rights-GA): (3.4%)
Others (Communist, Socialist Workers, Prohibition, Etc.): 0 Electoral Votes (0.2%)

Richard Nixon does slightly better than Barry Goldwater by picking up Florida, Virginia, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania (due to his running-mate William Scranton), Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Kansas, Nebraska, Vermont and Indiana. Lyndon Johnson, on the other hand, picks up Arizona, Louisiana, Georgia and South Carolina, whereas Alabama and Mississippi go for the National States Rights ticket of John Kasper and J.B. Stoner, which would have gained support in the South due to the fact that Johnson and Nixon were both supporters of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Logged
🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸
shua
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 25,774
Nepal


Political Matrix
E: 1.29, S: -0.70

WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2015, 01:08:29 PM »



JFK/LBJ                       50.5%  310
R. Nixon/T. Morton       48.3%  211
Unpledged                       .9%   17
Logged
Unconditional Surrender Truman
Harry S Truman
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,139


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2015, 07:59:42 PM »


President Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/ Sen. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN): 453 EV
Fmr. Vice President Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)/ Congressman William E. Miller (R-NY): 60 EV
Unpledged Electors: 25 EV

Like others have said, there's no way Nixon's beating LBJ in '64. After Kennedy's assassination, public sentiment was just too much in Johnson's favor for him to loose, barring some unthinkable misstep. Moving beyond 1964, it seems probable that a second defeat just four years after loosing to Kennedy would kill Nixon's presidential prospects once and for all. What that means for the GOP (and the rest of the country) in 1968 and beyond is quite interesting to speculate about.

Logged
Sir Mohamed
MohamedChalid
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 23,036
United States



Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2015, 08:28:42 AM »


President Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/ Sen. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN): 453 EV
Fmr. Vice President Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)/ Congressman William E. Miller (R-NY): 60 EV
Unpledged Electors: 25 EV

Like others have said, there's no way Nixon's beating LBJ in '64. After Kennedy's assassination, public sentiment was just too much in Johnson's favor for him to loose, barring some unthinkable misstep. Moving beyond 1964, it seems probable that a second defeat just four years after loosing to Kennedy would kill Nixon's presidential prospects once and for all. What that means for the GOP (and the rest of the country) in 1968 and beyond is quite interesting to speculate about.



I would witch VT, NM and IN to Johnson as well.
Logged
Sumner 1868
tara gilesbie
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,096
United States
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2015, 07:59:36 PM »

Nixon was simply not going to run after the Kennedy assassination.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.224 seconds with 11 queries.