What does this statement from Hillary on Planned Parenthood mean?

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

If you read the statement carefully, she's not wrong.  She's avoiding commenting on an issue that is a trap.  Dissing Planned Parenthood will anger the Feminist Left, without gaining her any new support.

"Planned Parenthood" represents issues that are often mixed together; the issues of abortion (which produces a pro-choice majority but a large, vocal pro-life minority) and birth control (which there is pretty much of a national consensus that this is OK and a good thing).  The government isn't funding abortions; they're funding birth control, but Planned Parenthood is an abortion provider, so the issues co-mingle to the quickly-glancing eye.  

I'm pro-life, but I'm resigned to the fact that the Democrats have made abortion a litmus test and the GOP wants the issue to remain open for the funds it brings in and the volunteers it brings in.  The GOP has figured out that in the long run, abortion (unfortunately, IMO) will be accepted to a point where only a small minority of voters will actually advocate for something like the Human Life Amendment (which isn'te evena  part of the GOP platform anymore).

Hillary's pro-choice, but she's not responsible for individual abortions any more so than any number of Republicans are responsible for the carnage in Newtown or Columbine.  This is really a non-issue in the current campaign in that nothing will change no matter who's elected.  

[dudeabides]

If you read the statement carefully, she's not wrong.  She's avoiding commenting on an issue that is a trap.  Dissing Planned Parenthood will anger the Feminist Left, without gaining her any new support.

"Planned Parenthood" represents issues that are often mixed together; the issues of abortion (which produces a pro-choice majority but a large, vocal pro-life minority) and birth control (which there is pretty much of a national consensus that this is OK and a good thing).  The government isn't funding abortions; they're funding birth control, but Planned Parenthood is an abortion provider, so the issues co-mingle to the quickly-glancing eye.  

I'm pro-life, but I'm resigned to the fact that the Democrats have made abortion a litmus test and the GOP wants the issue to remain open for the funds it brings in and the volunteers it brings in.  The GOP has figured out that in the long run, abortion (unfortunately, IMO) will be accepted to a point where only a small minority of voters will actually advocate for something like the Human Life Amendment (which isn'te evena  part of the GOP platform anymore).

Hillary's pro-choice, but she's not responsible for individual abortions any more so than any number of Republicans are responsible for the carnage in Newtown or Columbine.  This is really a non-issue in the current campaign in that nothing will change no matter who's elected.  

I agree with part of what you are saying.

But, indirectly, would you agree with my argument, which is the argument Republicans have made, that because Planned Parenthood has been able to receive taxpayer subsidies to pay for health care services and birth control, which then frees up money for abortion, therefore allowing abortion to be funded thanks to taxpayer dollars? It isn't a stretch of the imagination.

In my mind, the important issues of the day are the economy and our standing in the world. These moral questions will ultimately solved by societal consensus, and my hope is with advancing technology, abortions will become even more rare. I personally am opposed to abortion and believe they should only be legal in cases where the mother's health is at risk and in cases of rape and incest.

[All Along The Watchtower]

She has a solidly liberal record on women's issues. She doesn't need to do this.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

She means that she understands that people are upset because the video showed a woman being callous  about a sensitive issue.  Get over yourself.  You can take on sentence from any person out of context and claim it's not truly addressing the issue.  

That bares not the faintest resemblance to the words she used.   You really need to try harder next time if you are going to get that press secretary job.    

Let me try again, even though I assume you're being purposefully obtuse aka Ernest.

First, you cut off the context.  Here are the quotes from the article.  First, they say that she was talking about the Planned Parenthood videos.  

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See?  Do you understand this?  She saw a summary or news article about the videos and found them disturbing.  Does that make sense?

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This means she's going to make a couple of argument or "points."  Points just means arguments that lead to a neat conclusion.

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So, her point is that you shouldn't throw the fetus out with the bathwater.  Just because one person who works for Planned Parenthood was lacking in tact, you don't label everything that they do as evil.  

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So, this is the final point.  She clearly means if you have a problem with fetal tissue donations, don't place the blame on one organization.  If that's your actual problem, not trying to undermine Planned Parenthood, focus on that actual issue, the ethics behind fetal tissue donation in medicine.  

And, that's the heart of this issue, it's a political scheme to attack Planned Parenthood. Nobody actually cares about fetal tissue donations.

Ok, so the meaning you take is:

She thinks other abortion providers should be investigated as well if PP is

Which is all I was asking.

Not sure why the hell you made such a fuss about all that unenlightening "context."  Wow, she talking about the videos! How revelatory! I'm sure we all didn't know that already!  I didn't quote every single word because, apart from copyright issues, I only quoted the paragraph that had the part of the statement I found confusing, which everything else she said (at least as reported in the article) did not shed any real light on.

But I quoted your entire stupid post since you think such things are important.

[bedstuy]

I'm sorry, I just think you should be intellectually honest.  Playing stupid because you think it's cute or whatever is just annoying.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I'm sorry, I just think you should be intellectually honest.  Playing stupid because you think it's cute or whatever is just annoying.

I'm so sorry to annoy you by asking questions

[dudeabides]

I'm sorry, I just think you should be intellectually honest.  Playing stupid because you think it's cute or whatever is just annoying.

What is stupid is actually believing that federal tax dollars don't indirectly go to abortions when we fund Planned Parenthood.

To be frank, I think you should stop accusing people of having negative motives when you disagree with them or when they know something you don't.

The bottom line is this. The amount of money the federal government gives to Planned Parenthood is $540 million, a small fraction of federal spending. But this subsidy is in direct violation of the Hyde Amendment and for those of us who are pro-life, it violates our conscious.

Let me break this down for you:

Johnny needs $10 for a pizza pie and a soda. His mother gives him $3 for the soda. Now Johnny only needs $7 for pizza pie. Had Johnny not gotten the $3, he'd need $10 for both.

[bedstuy]

Ohh, brother.

Planned Parenthood doesn't just have a pool of money they use for everything. They have dedicated sources of funding for different elements of their organization.  It's not as simple as a Lemonade stand.

And, we don't give them $540 million.  Most of that is fee for service, so they give someone a STD test, medicaid pays.  That's the government paying for a service, which Planned Parenthood had to pay for themselves. 

The Hyde Amendment applies to abortion, not birth control.

[dudeabides]

Ohh, brother.

Planned Parenthood doesn't just have a pool of money they use for everything. They have dedicated sources of funding for different elements of their organization.  It's not as simple as a Lemonade stand.

And, we don't give them $540 million.  Most of that is fee for service, so they give someone a STD test, medicaid pays.  That's the government paying for a service, which Planned Parenthood had to pay for themselves. 

The Hyde Amendment applies to abortion, not birth control.

We do give them $540 million per year, that's a fact. The federal government isn't giving Planned Parenthood funding for abortion, but by providing them with funding for birth control, we are enabling them to use other monies they have for abortion. I will concede that it's a small percentage of their total expenditures, but I don't believe it's morally right.

[bedstuy]

Ohh, brother.

Planned Parenthood doesn't just have a pool of money they use for everything. They have dedicated sources of funding for different elements of their organization.  It's not as simple as a Lemonade stand.

And, we don't give them $540 million.  Most of that is fee for service, so they give someone a STD test, medicaid pays.  That's the government paying for a service, which Planned Parenthood had to pay for themselves. 

The Hyde Amendment applies to abortion, not birth control.

We do give them $540 million per year, that's a fact. The federal government isn't giving Planned Parenthood funding for abortion, but by providing them with funding for birth control, we are enabling them to use other monies they have for abortion. I will concede that it's a small percentage of their total expenditures, but I don't believe it's morally right.

If I hire a plummer, and pay him $100, is that giving him $100?  Not really.  That's paying someone for their labor.  That's most of that $540 million.  It's Medicaid reimbursements.

This fight was never about that $540 million.  It's about the Title X funding, which is actually a Federal grant program and amounts to about $100 million.  Title X only goes to birth control and STD screenings. 

Now, you assert that if Planned Parenthood lost that Federal money to provide free HIV, Hep C tests, flu vaccines etc., they would make up the difference by providing fewer abortions.  Why do you think that's the case? 

[Blair]

I'm sorry, I just think you should be intellectually honest.  Playing stupid because you think it's cute or whatever is just annoying.

What is stupid is actually believing that federal tax dollars don't indirectly go to abortions when we fund Planned Parenthood.

To be frank, I think you should stop accusing people of having negative motives when you disagree with them or when they know something you don't.

The bottom line is this. The amount of money the federal government gives to Planned Parenthood is $540 million, a small fraction of federal spending. But this subsidy is in direct violation of the Hyde Amendment and for those of us who are pro-life, it violates our conscious.

Let me break this down for you:

Johnny needs $10 for a pizza pie and a soda. His mother gives him $3 for the soda. Now Johnny only needs $7 for pizza pie. Had Johnny not gotten the $3, he'd need $10 for both.

We're not stupid voters in some cornfield, you don't need to dumb it down for us

[dmmidmi]

I'm sorry, I just think you should be intellectually honest.  Playing stupid because you think it's cute or whatever is just annoying.

What is stupid is actually believing that federal tax dollars don't indirectly go to abortions when we fund Planned Parenthood.

To be frank, I think you should stop accusing people of having negative motives when you disagree with them or when they know something you don't.

The bottom line is this. The amount of money the federal government gives to Planned Parenthood is $540 million, a small fraction of federal spending. But this subsidy is in direct violation of the Hyde Amendment and for those of us who are pro-life, it violates our conscious.

Let me break this down for you:

Johnny needs $10 for a pizza pie and a soda. His mother gives him $3 for the soda. Now Johnny only needs $7 for pizza pie. Had Johnny not gotten the $3, he'd need $10 for both.

I don't think you know what the word "subsidy" means.

In fact, most Medicaid providers are reimbursed at a rate that is below the cost of delivery.

So, the Feds and state aren't doing the subsidizing at all. To the contrary, it's the other way around.

[Blair]

Ohh, brother.

Planned Parenthood doesn't just have a pool of money they use for everything. They have dedicated sources of funding for different elements of their organization.  It's not as simple as a Lemonade stand.

And, we don't give them $540 million.  Most of that is fee for service, so they give someone a STD test, medicaid pays.  That's the government paying for a service, which Planned Parenthood had to pay for themselves. 

The Hyde Amendment applies to abortion, not birth control.

We do give them $540 million per year, that's a fact. The federal government isn't giving Planned Parenthood funding for abortion, but by providing them with funding for birth control, we are enabling them to use other monies they have for abortion. I will concede that it's a small percentage of their total expenditures, but I don't believe it's morally right.

But it's fine to give 600 billion odd to the Military?