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Question: What is your position on abortion?
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« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2010, 05:11:48 PM »

Therefore, your poorly crafted poll doesn't encompass the full range of opinions (or lack thereof).

Besides, you're deliberately reducing an extremely complicated spectrum of possible opinions to a dichotomy of two extremes.  Just like the ludicrous FF/HP polls, political discourse is always more complicated than black-or-white, and it's intellectually deficient to argue otherwise.
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« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2010, 05:14:14 PM »

Therefore, your poorly crafted poll doesn't encompass the full range of opinions (or lack thereof).

Besides, you're deliberately reducing an extremely complicated spectrum of possible opinions to a dichotomy of two extremes.  Just like the ludicrous FF/HP polls, political discourse is always more complicated than black-or-white, and it's intellectually deficient to argue otherwise.

Well I'm sorry I didn't take account of your fence sitting but I wanted a general outline of people's positions on the issue. It's not like there's a middle  ground between aborting a fetus or keeping it alive.
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« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2010, 05:20:12 PM »

'Fence-sitting' implies an interest in the views of either side.  I sit on no fences.

If you genuinely cannot see any middle ground here, then there's really not much point in your discussing political issues at all.

Let's just say that I doubt anybody would hire 'WinDis Polls' in the future, if its administrator doesn't have much of an understanding of the topic they'd be polling.  Well, maybe Fox News might.
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« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2010, 05:26:36 PM »

You're the first person to complain, and I'm asking it as a general question. Given you have a history of complaining about... well... everything, I'm not inclined to your view. You either have an opinion one way or the other, or you don't. If the former, vote, debate, whatever. If the latter, I don't know why you insist on posting in this thread.
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« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2010, 05:36:19 PM »

Half a dozen people have posted in this thread to adopt one of the two given positions; mainly simpletons who probably have no idea what "nuance" means.

Anyway, the point is that your poll is very poorly crafted.  But I guess it serves political simpletons well.  Rational and intelligent folk can wait for a higher quality discussion on this difficult issue.
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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2010, 05:38:26 PM »

What a ridiculous poll.  This is far from a black-and-white issue.

Not really. You either support abortion on request or you don't.

The current UK laws don't support abortion on request, as far as I know. A woman can only get an abortion if the baby will seriously affect the life of the mother or the child itself will be born disable or if birthing the child will kill the mother or in cases of rape/incest. Also, 2 doctors need to agree that the abortion is justified. Our laws are noticabley more conservative compared to the US, Canada and other EU countries which have on demand laws.

Our laws are trying to run the middle ground I guess.
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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2010, 05:45:34 PM »

Half a dozen people have posted in this thread to adopt one of the two given positions; mainly simpletons who probably have no idea what "nuance" means.

Anyway, the point is that your poll is very poorly crafted.  But I guess it serves political simpletons well.  Rational and intelligent folk can wait for a higher quality discussion on this difficult issue.

So, in other words, if people choose to affiliate with one side of the debate or another, they're simpletons?
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« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2010, 05:48:56 PM »

So, in other words, if people choose to affiliate with one side of the debate or another, they're simpletons?

If people choose to see a mostly gray debate in only black or white, or are simply unable to see the gray, then of course they are simpletons.
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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2010, 05:52:17 PM »

What a ridiculous poll.  This is far from a black-and-white issue.

Not really. You either support abortion on request or you don't.

The current UK laws don't support abortion on request, as far as I know. A woman can only get an abortion if the baby will seriously affect the life of the mother or the child itself will be born disable or if birthing the child will kill the mother or in cases of rape/incest. Also, 2 doctors need to agree that the abortion is justified. Our laws are noticabley more conservative compared to the US, Canada and other EU countries which have on demand laws.

Our laws are trying to run the middle ground I guess.

Really? I thought they legalized abortion on demand in 1968.
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« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2010, 05:54:45 PM »

Cry I'm not a simpleton and I didn't give a black or white answer, Joe.
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« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2010, 05:55:47 PM »

Cry I'm not a simpleton and I didn't give a black or white answer, Joe.

Exactly.
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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2010, 06:03:49 PM »

What a ridiculous poll.  This is far from a black-and-white issue.

Not really. You either support abortion on request or you don't.

The current UK laws don't support abortion on request, as far as I know. A woman can only get an abortion if the baby will seriously affect the life of the mother or the child itself will be born disable or if birthing the child will kill the mother or in cases of rape/incest. Also, 2 doctors need to agree that the abortion is justified. Our laws are noticabley more conservative compared to the US, Canada and other EU countries which have on demand laws.

Our laws are trying to run the middle ground I guess.

Really? I thought they legalized abortion on demand in 1968.

chane08 is right actually. It was 1967 when it was legalised here though Wink
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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2010, 06:31:11 PM »

I defer to the UK law which is fine by me.
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« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2010, 06:35:38 PM »

Pro-Life
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« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2010, 06:36:50 PM »


Are you a Democrat now?
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« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2010, 06:53:59 PM »

None of the above.
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« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2010, 09:10:58 PM »

Pro-Choice
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« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2010, 09:11:56 PM »

Pro-life
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« Reply #43 on: February 27, 2010, 09:15:53 PM »

     Pro-choice.
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« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2010, 01:02:58 AM »

Pro-Life
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« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2010, 01:43:44 AM »

Pro-life.
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« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2010, 08:06:55 AM »

The current UK laws don't support abortion on request, as far as I know. A woman can only get an abortion if the baby will seriously affect the life of the mother or the child itself will be born disable or if birthing the child will kill the mother or in cases of rape/incest. Also, 2 doctors need to agree that the abortion is justified.

This is correct. Though, obviously, private clinics tend to interpret the language of the law more liberally than the NHS does.

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More 'conservative' than North America, yes. Other EU countries... more complicated. There are more restrictions on access to the procedure here, but the time limit is longer.

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It was legalised on public policy grounds, so, yeah.
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« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2010, 08:11:27 AM »

Anyway, my position is quite close to Leo Abse's.
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« Reply #48 on: February 28, 2010, 01:18:26 PM »
« Edited: March 01, 2010, 02:41:05 PM by MK rep NC »

Pro - The mothers right to choose.
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« Reply #49 on: February 28, 2010, 02:43:00 PM »

pro-choice
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