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« on: October 30, 2013, 06:30:05 AM »

This new Knesset seat will see several important legislation coming up, amongst the notable ones:
- Civil marriage in Israel. heretofore only religious institution from the different religions could marry individuals with many problems surfacing for atheist, secular people, eastern European immigrants, and none mainline Jews (with minor problems for the Muslim and Christian minorities as well).

- SSM, the civil marriage act will be bundled up with an SSM clause thus trying to force this one through. It's odd we had to wait until 2013 to see this coming to the Knesset with force considering Israel was one of the most progressive states regarding gay rights in the 90s and the general openness of the secular community to LGBT issues.

Those bills will be brought up by Yesh Atid with Meretz, Labour, Livni,  and Hadash expected to support it. Likud will probably split on that, and Israel Beitenu will unshockingly betray their voters and vote  against it. Haredi, Jewish Home, and the Arab parties will all oppose.
I believe this showdown will be interesting.

- Decriminalization of Cannabis user. This bill is being push forward by MK Zandberg (Meretz) and the 'interesting' MK Feiglin (Likud). Finally after years this issue had been bumped to the public attention after Lapid claimed he had not smoked weed only to have people come up and say that not only had they smoked with him but he also hooked them up!
I believe most of the coalition will oppose this and again this will be a very interesting battle to observe.

Parental leave for fathers, freedom of information bills, and more progressive legislation will be coming up as well. The composition of this Knesset with the convenient time might turn this Knesset seat historic.

With the negotiations with the Palestinians push forward we may very well see a new coalition as well by the turn of this seat...
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2013, 06:49:20 AM »

Disgusting.
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2013, 08:13:28 AM »


Huh
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2013, 08:25:58 AM »


SSM and Cannabis bills.

Anyone who votes in favour of Cannabis legalisation should be exiled to Syria.
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2013, 09:14:24 AM »


I think we all know by this point that you hate gays with a passion unequaled and that you wish that every government in the world would agree with you and lock them up in jails. You really don't need to re-announce your bigotry in every single thread on the topic, we get it by now.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2013, 09:36:18 AM »

SSM and Cannabis bills.

Anyone who votes in favour of Cannabis legalisation should be exiled to Syria.

If everyone in Syria was smoking cannabis that country would be a calmer place. I you leave gays to marry in peace, they will give you the bride bouquet. It's always better to make peace and not war, don't you agree? Grin
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2013, 09:47:42 AM »


SSM and Cannabis bills.

Anyone who votes in favour of Cannabis legalisation should be exiled to Syria.

Why do you have a D avatar?
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2013, 10:40:59 AM »

I think he likes the D...
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2013, 10:54:23 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2013, 11:24:58 AM »


My somewhat left leaning economic views and strong support for a national healthcare institution, along with many other left leaning views puts me far more in line with Democrats than the GOP, a party that I loathe.
I didn't know that support for drug legalisation and SSM was required for you to support the Democratic Party. Because it isn't.
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2013, 12:27:29 PM »

This new Knesset seat will see several important legislation coming up, amongst the notable ones:
- Civil marriage in Israel. heretofore only religious institution from the different religions could marry individuals with many problems surfacing for atheist, secular people, eastern European immigrants, and none mainline Jews (with minor problems for the Muslim and Christian minorities as well).
Not to mention making cross-community marriage almost impossible.
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2013, 12:34:41 PM »


My somewhat left leaning economic views and strong support for a national healthcare institution, along with many other left leaning views puts me far more in line with Democrats than the GOP, a party that I loathe.
I didn't know that support for drug legalisation and SSM was required for you to support the Democratic Party. Because it isn't.

It may not be required, but come on, if you have social views like that, you'd be more comfortable with the GOP anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2013, 12:38:48 PM »

This new Knesset seat will see several important legislation coming up, amongst the notable ones:
- Civil marriage in Israel. heretofore only religious institution from the different religions could marry individuals with many problems surfacing for atheist, secular people, eastern European immigrants, and none mainline Jews (with minor problems for the Muslim and Christian minorities as well).
Not to mention making cross-community marriage almost impossible.

And many many more problems (like coming with bride-to-be and getting a bearded 80 year old rabbi perv questioning you on your sex life), this is seriously one of the most troubling topics in Israeli society eclipsed only by the occupation\Palestinian conflict.

Well hifly15 I am a bit shocked to hear this from a German, you are the first of which I ever encountered who showed such socially backward position.
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2013, 01:12:00 PM »


SSM and Cannabis bills.

Anyone who votes in favour of Cannabis legalisation should be exiled to Syria.

Do you want to be my "forum buddy"?

Anyway, Israel Freedom Country yay.
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2013, 01:51:18 PM »
« Edited: October 30, 2013, 02:00:53 PM by hifly15 »

Well hifly15 I am a bit shocked to hear this from a German, you are the first of which I ever encountered who showed such socially backward position.

My position is not backward, it's a perfectly normal position to take. There isn't only one side to social issues.
As for never having encountered any "socially backward" German before, you evidently have never been to East Germany!
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« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2013, 01:58:44 PM »


My somewhat left leaning economic views and strong support for a national healthcare institution, along with many other left leaning views puts me far more in line with Democrats than the GOP, a party that I loathe.
I didn't know that support for drug legalisation and SSM was required for you to support the Democratic Party. Because it isn't.

It may not be required, but come on, if you have social views like that, you'd be more comfortable with the GOP anyway.
No I would not be, because those are virtually the only major issues I strongly agree with the GOP on. There are many more issues across the nation than just those two.
But why don't you say that to your beloved congressman Jim Matheson, who is far to my right. If every Democrat who opposed SSM and/or Cannabis legalisation should support the GOP then Democrats will continue to have a very hard time taking back ground in southern states and generally more socially conservative areas.
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« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2013, 02:04:54 PM »

Good for Israel.
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« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2013, 03:17:10 PM »

Anyone who votes in favour of Cannabis legalisation should be exiled to Syria.

Don't be a jackass.
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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2013, 04:06:08 PM »


My somewhat left leaning economic views and strong support for a national healthcare institution, along with many other left leaning views puts me far more in line with Democrats than the GOP, a party that I loathe.
I didn't know that support for drug legalisation and SSM was required for you to support the Democratic Party. Because it isn't.

It may not be required, but come on, if you have social views like that, you'd be more comfortable with the GOP anyway.
No I would not be, because those are virtually the only major issues I strongly agree with the GOP on. There are many more issues across the nation than just those two.
But why don't you say that to your beloved congressman Jim Matheson, who is far to my right. If every Democrat who opposed SSM and/or Cannabis legalisation should support the GOP then Democrats will continue to have a very hard time taking back ground in southern states and generally more socially conservative areas.

I don't support Jim Matheson (for this and different reasons) but that's not the point.

I get that not every Democrat needs to support SSM and marijuana to be a Democrat, but okay, why don't you support them?
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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2013, 05:45:03 PM »

Support for SSM makes it hard to win the South because the South is very religious.

I don't think anyone cares about marijuana legalization though. It's something that 99% of the people who take more than 5 seconds to think about it are in favor of.
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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2013, 06:02:31 PM »

Support for SSM makes it hard to win the South because the South is very religious.

I don't think anyone cares about marijuana legalization though. It's something that 99% of the people who take more than 5 seconds to think about it are in favor of.

That is why people are mistaken on the issue... They only take five seconds to think on it. Let us examine the issue. If marijuana is legalised, presumably with sales taxes imposed... Then the people who were previously supplying it aren't simply going to vanish. No, either they will turn to more insidious forms of crime, or, more likely, they will easily undercut the price of legal dope with cheaper, nastier stuff. Marijuana legalisation will not reduce crime. It's just an excuse for people to turn a blind eye to the real problems it causes in society.
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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2013, 06:11:06 PM »

So you favor it remaining illegal because you think it's a good release valve for criminals? So inherent in your support for prohibition is the acknowledgement that it's basically harmless?
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« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2013, 06:20:19 PM »

Hifly, why don't you support LGBT rights? I'm legitimately curious.
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« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2013, 06:24:53 PM »

Hifly, why don't you support LGBT rights? I'm legitimately curious.

I support LGBT rights and I don't support redefining marriage. End of. I've explained this countless times.
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« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2013, 06:49:30 PM »

People don't support gay marriage because they're religious or homophobic or some combination of the two. When someone says they're opposed, I don't become curios at all.

Why be opposed to marijuana legalization though? THAT's a weird one.
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