Is Hillary getting overexposed?

[Beet]

Discuss...

[CLARENCE 2015!]

I worry about the same, but I do not think so....her constant coverage makes it impossible for any challenger to be seen as a viable alternative

[Never]

Maybe, but right now, the weakest I can see her ending up is winning the general election at Obama 2012 levels.

[bedstuy]

At this point, it doesn't matter.  She's on a book tour and just staying in the conversation and public consciousness a little bit.  By the time the primary race starts, this will be ancient history.  We will forget this period of speculation 7 times over because it's ultimately just noise.  

The ultimate question for me is whether Hillary Clinton has learned the lessons of 2008.  My worry is that she's going to play it safe too much and come off as aloof and vague.  

[Free Bird]

This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LunCdmF7PPs

[eric82oslo]

Short answer: No.
Long answer: Definitely no. Not even close.

[Bull Moose Base]

Not from the perspective of her publisher.

[Mister Mets]

I think so.

It comes with benefits and drawbacks.

There is less room for plausible Democratic candidates to get attention.

But she is seen as a partisan figure, a senator turned cabinet member rather than an Eisenhower. That's problematic in a general election.

And her unforced errors might have the O'Malleys and Bidens of the world thinking they have a shot.

[NHLiberal]

I think so.

It comes with benefits and drawbacks.

There is less room for plausible Democratic candidates to get attention.

But she is seen as a partisan figure, a senator turned cabinet member rather than an Eisenhower. That's problematic in a general election.

And her unforced errors might have the O'Malleys and Bidens of the world thinking they have a shot.

Agreed. Partisan figures are NEVER elected President. Nearly every President ever elected has an Eisenhower-esque background and it really unique circumstances for someone who has held a political office before to be elected President.

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This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LunCdmF7PPs

Thanks for the link.

Does anyone know Brandon Gaudreau?

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[Mister Mets]

I think so.

It comes with benefits and drawbacks.

There is less room for plausible Democratic candidates to get attention.

But she is seen as a partisan figure, a senator turned cabinet member rather than an Eisenhower. That's problematic in a general election.

And her unforced errors might have the O'Malleys and Bidens of the world thinking they have a shot.

Agreed. Partisan figures are NEVER elected President. Nearly every President ever elected has an Eisenhower-esque background and it really unique circumstances for someone who has held a political office before to be elected President.

It depends on the goal posts.

I think Hillary Clinton has a good chance of being the next President. She also has a good chance of losing an election (be it a primary or the general) to the next President in a race where she's one partisan officeholder out of several.

[dmmidmi]

I think so.

It comes with benefits and drawbacks.

There is less room for plausible Democratic candidates to get attention.

But she is seen as a partisan figure, a senator turned cabinet member rather than an Eisenhower. That's problematic in a general election.

And her unforced errors might have the O'Malleys and Bidens of the world thinking they have a shot.

Agreed. Partisan figures are NEVER elected President. Nearly every President ever elected has an Eisenhower-esque background and it really unique circumstances for someone who has held a political office before to be elected President.

It depends on the goal posts.

I think Hillary Clinton has a good chance of being the next President. She also has a good chance of losing an election (be it a primary or the general) to the next President in a race where she's one partisan officeholder out of several.

Every single president we've had since Eisenhower has been a partisan office holder.

[GaussLaw]

Maybe, but right now, the weakest I can see her ending up is winning the general election at Obama 2012 levels.

Unless of course, the economy turns ugly, which is entirely possible.

[Likely Voter]

Short answer: no. In fact her book tour is exposing that she is out of practice so it is probably helping her. The whole 'flat broke' thing and talking about multiple mortgages shows she really needs to relearn how to talk like a normal human, otherwise she has a semi-Mitt problem.

[NHLiberal]

I think so.

It comes with benefits and drawbacks.

There is less room for plausible Democratic candidates to get attention.

But she is seen as a partisan figure, a senator turned cabinet member rather than an Eisenhower. That's problematic in a general election.

And her unforced errors might have the O'Malleys and Bidens of the world thinking they have a shot.

Agreed. Partisan figures are NEVER elected President. Nearly every President ever elected has an Eisenhower-esque background and it really unique circumstances for someone who has held a political office before to be elected President.

It depends on the goal posts.

I think Hillary Clinton has a good chance of being the next President. She also has a good chance of losing an election (be it a primary or the general) to the next President in a race where she's one partisan officeholder out of several.

Every single president we've had since Eisenhower has been a partisan office holder.

Exactly. That's why Mister Mets' concern that Hillary could lose because she's a partisan office holder rather than an office holder makes literally no sense.

[Never]

I think so.

It comes with benefits and drawbacks.

There is less room for plausible Democratic candidates to get attention.

But she is seen as a partisan figure, a senator turned cabinet member rather than an Eisenhower. That's problematic in a general election.

And her unforced errors might have the O'Malleys and Bidens of the world thinking they have a shot.

Agreed. Partisan figures are NEVER elected President. Nearly every President ever elected has an Eisenhower-esque background and it really unique circumstances for someone who has held a political office before to be elected President.

It depends on the goal posts.

I think Hillary Clinton has a good chance of being the next President. She also has a good chance of losing an election (be it a primary or the general) to the next President in a race where she's one partisan officeholder out of several.

Every single president we've had since Eisenhower has been a partisan office holder.

Exactly. That's why Mister Mets' concern that Hillary could lose because she's a partisan office holder rather than an office holder makes literally no sense.

Would a member of Congress or political appointee be as strong as an Army general?

[DINGO Joe]

No, because everyday people really don't pay attention to all this.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

She may be for the time being, but she'll probably keep a low profile during late 2014/early 2015, so it will have no long term effect.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

I think so.

It comes with benefits and drawbacks.

There is less room for plausible Democratic candidates to get attention.

But she is seen as a partisan figure, a senator turned cabinet member rather than an Eisenhower. That's problematic in a general election.

And her unforced errors might have the O'Malleys and Bidens of the world thinking they have a shot.

Agreed. Partisan figures are NEVER elected President. Nearly every President ever elected has an Eisenhower-esque background and it really unique circumstances for someone who has held a political office before to be elected President.

Really unique circumstances.... such as an opposition candidate who has the choice between publicly calling for a rejection of everything since the Renaissance, or being burned at the stake by a faction of their own party?

[dmmidmi]

I think so.

It comes with benefits and drawbacks.

There is less room for plausible Democratic candidates to get attention.

But she is seen as a partisan figure, a senator turned cabinet member rather than an Eisenhower. That's problematic in a general election.

And her unforced errors might have the O'Malleys and Bidens of the world thinking they have a shot.

Agreed. Partisan figures are NEVER elected President. Nearly every President ever elected has an Eisenhower-esque background and it really unique circumstances for someone who has held a political office before to be elected President.

It depends on the goal posts.

I think Hillary Clinton has a good chance of being the next President. She also has a good chance of losing an election (be it a primary or the general) to the next President in a race where she's one partisan officeholder out of several.

Every single president we've had since Eisenhower has been a partisan office holder.

Exactly. That's why Mister Mets' concern that Hillary could lose because she's a partisan office holder rather than an office holder makes literally no sense.

Would a member of Congress or political appointee be as strong as an Army general?

We don't even have to speculate about this--we already know the answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2004

[Free Bird]

This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LunCdmF7PPs

Thanks for the link.

Does anyone know Brandon Gaudreau?

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I'm not sure. He's probably a Republican, but otherwise I wouldn't know if I even interacted with him ever. I likely have but haven't known it.

[Joe Biden 2020]

If she could manage to get out of her own way, this exposure is great for her.  She's starting to look like Biden did in the Senate or Romney in 2012.  That is, constantly eating her foot.  She's said a few things recently that have not been helpful in her image mainly she was dead broke or not that well off.  Bill's 'damage control' the other day, I think inadvertently inflicted more damage.  The good thing is as a previous poster points out, the 2016 race is not being followed by the Average Joe, yet.

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

This is getting good.

[badgate]

David Letterman recycled his joke about Obama asking her to start early recently; nobody seemed to notice it was a recycled punch line. So, based on this completely relevant observation, my answer is no.

[Ogre Mage]

No.  After six years away from electoral politics, this is an opportunity to get back into political "fighting form," experiment with political messaging and feel out the media in the relatively low pressure environment of a book tour.  It is essentially a test-run/listening tour for a presidential campaign.