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« Reply #225 on: March 22, 2016, 11:51:53 PM »

Sounds like Bernie's going all the way to California.

I don't think anyone actually expects him to drop out. I'm on the record saying he has the right to stay in as long as he likes. But the tone needs to change, he isn't winning the nomination and he needs to start helping the progressive movement in November, that includes actively raising money for campaigns other than his own and campaigning for Democrats. Him staying in can be a big positive, but still treating it like a genuinely competitive primary is a bad idea.

He's still trying to win. I imagine he'll help like-minded Democrats, like Zephyr Teachout.  Although I'm sure the grassroots is already doing a lot for her.

He might be, that'll help the delegate margin at the end, but it won't get him the win. Math is real, just as it was for Hillary in 08, by the end of February the writing was on the wall. Regardless of good states coming, the margin couldn't be overcome. This is even more emphatic.

Yet no one questioned Clinton for taking it to the end after it was pretty much over after Obama went on his run in February and it was obviously over. I know it's over, but I think it would help everyone if every contest is contested this cycle. It totally helped in 08 by building an infrastructure for Obama.

No one? Countless people were shrieking at the top of her lungs for her to drop out as soon as she lost Iowa. lol

Probably some of the same people that are now insisting Sanders should take it to the convention.

Probably, but no one that really matters. I still hope Sanders goes to the convention, but more like Clinton did in 2008.
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« Reply #226 on: March 22, 2016, 11:52:59 PM »

If you want to whine or talk about conspiracy theories, go here:

Sanders Supporters Venting Zone
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« Reply #227 on: March 22, 2016, 11:53:47 PM »

Im predicting Idaho 70% Sanders, 30% Hillary
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« Reply #228 on: March 22, 2016, 11:56:51 PM »

From Twitter: A pic from Utah Democratic Party headquarters:


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« Reply #229 on: March 22, 2016, 11:57:21 PM »

Im predicting Idaho 70% Sanders, 30% Hillary

The Blaine County numbers suggest it'll be much closer than that.
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« Reply #230 on: March 22, 2016, 11:58:04 PM »

Im predicting Idaho 70% Sanders, 30% Hillary

The Blaine County numbers suggest it'll be much closer than that.

Blaine is granola ski country isn't it?
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« Reply #231 on: March 22, 2016, 11:58:20 PM »

Hillary could get indicted & anyways would drop out when the FBI finds her guilty, indictment or not.

Either ways only 50% of the states have voted, so I don't see the big deal.

If he cares about the progressive movement, then Hillary clean needs to lose in November for a real progressive to rise - The Dem party needs to have a huge temporary setback if it needs to go the right way on the long term.

Supporting a mass murderer neo con is doing so service to the progressive wing.

I'm a strong Sanders supporter and donated to his campaign multiple times, I will be voting for him in the Primary in April here.  Clinton is too much of a moderate and way too wishy washy for my tastes.  I don't like the fact she really only takes Preogressive positions when it is the popular thing to do and really backs away from it (or doesn't embrace them) when its not the popular thing.   With that being said, when its all set and done she will very likely be the nominee, a Trump or Cruz Presidency will do far more damage  to the Progressive movement in this country than electing a moderate like Clinton ever would.
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« Reply #232 on: March 22, 2016, 11:58:44 PM »

Spokesman-Review Newspaper (Spokane, WA) has tweeted that these are the final results for Kootenai County: 

Clinton: 493
Sanders: 1561

(largest city: Coeur d'Alene)
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« Reply #233 on: March 23, 2016, 12:00:26 AM »

Sanders running about 5% behind Obama in Kootenai, 13% behind in Blaine from 2008 caucus.
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« Reply #234 on: March 23, 2016, 12:00:53 AM »

Sounds like Bernie's going all the way to California.

I don't think anyone actually expects him to drop out. I'm on the record saying he has the right to stay in as long as he likes. But the tone needs to change, he isn't winning the nomination and he needs to start helping the progressive movement in November, that includes actively raising money for campaigns other than his own and campaigning for Democrats. Him staying in can be a big positive, but still treating it like a genuinely competitive primary is a bad idea.

He's still trying to win. I imagine he'll help like-minded Democrats, like Zephyr Teachout.  Although I'm sure the grassroots is already doing a lot for her.

He might be, that'll help the delegate margin at the end, but it won't get him the win. Math is real, just as it was for Hillary in 08, by the end of February the writing was on the wall. Regardless of good states coming, the margin couldn't be overcome. This is even more emphatic.

Yet no one questioned Clinton for taking it to the end after it was pretty much over after Obama went on his run in February and it was obviously over. I know it's over, but I think it would help everyone if every contest is contested this cycle. It totally helped in 08 by building an infrastructure for Obama.

I assume you never turned on MSNBC Feb-Jun 2008?
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« Reply #235 on: March 23, 2016, 12:00:57 AM »

From Twitter: A pic from Utah Democratic Party headquarters:


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« Reply #236 on: March 23, 2016, 12:01:23 AM »

Sanders running about 5% behind Obama in Kootenai, 13% behind in Blaine from 2008 caucus.

Sounds like he could hit 70, but not much higher.
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« Reply #237 on: March 23, 2016, 12:02:16 AM »

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« Reply #238 on: March 23, 2016, 12:02:32 AM »

I think we need to be careful about these place by place results and just wait for the state-wide.
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« Reply #239 on: March 23, 2016, 12:03:08 AM »

I think we need to be careful about these place by place results and just wait for the state-wide.

Agreed!
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« Reply #240 on: March 23, 2016, 12:04:50 AM »

More from Idaho:

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« Reply #241 on: March 23, 2016, 12:05:25 AM »

Do we have exit polls on Arizona?  I am curious to see what the racial breakdown is for the Democratic primary, and what proportion of those voting for Hillary are Latinos. 
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« Reply #242 on: March 23, 2016, 12:05:57 AM »

I think most Sanders supporters know Sanders isn't going to win the nomination. He's still in the race to keep promoting his message, and to get more people involved and allow their voices to be heard. As long as he doesn't go super negative on Clinton, I don't see how him waiting until June to drop out will really cause her any damage. It's not like she's going to run out of money by then.
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« Reply #243 on: March 23, 2016, 12:06:10 AM »

Do we have exit polls on Arizona?  I am curious to see what the racial breakdown is for the Democratic primary, and what proportion of those voting for Hillary are Latinos. 

No exits
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« Reply #244 on: March 23, 2016, 12:06:36 AM »

Utah:
 
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Unofficial results from tonight's caucus.

Bernie Sanders 986
Hillary Clinton 240

Almost 1,300 votes cast.

https://twitter.com/TooeleDems/status/712503971215237120
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« Reply #245 on: March 23, 2016, 12:08:06 AM »

God I hate caucuses. They need to be banned.
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« Reply #246 on: March 23, 2016, 12:08:56 AM »

What a horrible night for voting.
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« Reply #247 on: March 23, 2016, 12:09:16 AM »

God I hate caucuses. They need to be banned.

Arizona is showing that primaries can be total disasters too.
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« Reply #248 on: March 23, 2016, 12:10:05 AM »

First results from UT:

sanders   
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« Reply #249 on: March 23, 2016, 12:11:07 AM »

Seems the ski counties aren't nearly as pro-Bernie as I was expecting.
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