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Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-CA)
 
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Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ)
 
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Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
 
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Sec. Julian Castro (D-TX)
 
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Sen. Al Franken (D-MN)
 
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Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA)
 
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Gov. Deval Patrick (D-MA)
 
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Sec. Tom Perez (D-MD)
 
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Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT)
 
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Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA)
 
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Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)
 
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« on: May 11, 2016, 09:16:52 PM »

The choices are the potential running mates above 2¢ on PredictIt.
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2016, 09:19:11 PM »

Becerra or Franken
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2016, 09:21:20 PM »

Bernie Sanders just to see VS's reactions
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2016, 09:39:57 PM »

Kaine. Besides everything else, he would be able to cultivate the Spanish-speaking community, without being an obvious allergen for the nativist crowd.
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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2016, 09:41:40 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2016, 09:56:43 PM »

Bernie Sanders just to see VS's reactions

I'd be okay with it.  The Vice President is effectively powerless and she'd get to replace him with a handpicked successor after he died of old age.
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2016, 10:04:02 PM »

No votes for Castro yet. I'm impressed with you guys.
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2016, 10:05:29 PM »

I would prefer Warner, but Kaine makes the most political sense.

Clinton/Booker vs Trump/Christie would be interesting... two NY/NJ tickets.
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2016, 10:10:40 PM »

We need a Vice President with a name starting with X.
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2016, 10:49:41 PM »

Sherrod Brown if it looks close; Mark Warner if it does not.
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2016, 11:00:34 PM »

Becerra or Kaine; I'm leaning Becerra though.
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2016, 11:23:28 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2016, 11:27:02 PM »

I don't know why people say Becerra. He's never held statewide office, probably not too well-known. A two-woman ticket is too risky, Bernie Sanders is really up and age and may not be in good physical shape to be VP for 4 (let alone Cool years, and some (like Warren, Booker, and Brown) would cost Democrats a Senate seat. I'm guessing she'll pick Kaine, who would be her best bet.
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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2016, 11:33:57 PM »

Sherwood Brown, helps unite the party by brining someone on board that broadly represents the left liberal socail democratic wing of the party. It also helps possibly securing a swing state, in particular one that will be close.
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2016, 12:09:02 AM »

Sherrod Brown or Elizabeth Warren. They can mostly unite the Bernie voters around Hillary.
Even though I think someone more along the lines of Tulsi Gabbard or Joseph Kennedy would be her best choice for VP.
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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2016, 12:25:29 AM »

Have I succeeded in killing Castro's candidacy with the Atlas constituency?
Greatest accomplishment since I joined.

There's absolutely no reason for Clinton to pick Sanders when she could pick Warren.
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2016, 01:38:49 AM »

Kaine's a whole lot more boring than Warner. Is there a particular reason Atlas thinks he's so much better?



Of these, though, probably Al Franken.
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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2016, 01:47:20 AM »

Kaine's a whole lot more boring than Warner. Is there a particular reason Atlas thinks he's so much better?



Of these, though, probably Al Franken.

Kaine is less of a corporate shill/DINO and marginally better on the stump.  Kaine is the pretty obvious pick strategically.

If Warren is off the table (idk why Hillary would ever pick someone so potentially antagonistic to her admin though Liz would be a big asset during the campaign phase), Kaine is okay.

 Someone like Brown or franken would be better but I'm starting to feel that you shouldn't risk too much in terms of Senate calculus with this pick - like sabato says, just pick someone safe and respectable and get it over with.
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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2016, 01:59:33 AM »

Kaine's a whole lot more boring than Warner. Is there a particular reason Atlas thinks he's so much better?

Boring is not a disadvantage in the VP selection, where the No. 1 rule is "do no harm."  Kaine is slightly to Warner's left and would be a bit more palatable to the base.  Kaine speaks fluent Spanish while Warner doesn't.  Kaine sits on both the Senate Armed Services and Foreign Relations Committee while Warner doesn't so Kaine is more versed in military and foreign policy.  Kaine has served as a Lieutenant Governor so he has experience being a No. 2.  Warner doesn't. 
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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2016, 02:19:30 AM »

Kaine has served as a Lieutenant Governor so he has experience being a No. 2.  Warner doesn't. 

Yeah, I think Warner has more of an ego, and might not settle into the role of being a #2 so easily.

Also, Warner's a few years older than Kaine, and also super-rich.  Warner is the 0.0001%.
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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2016, 03:34:36 AM »

Kaine's a whole lot more boring than Warner. Is there a particular reason Atlas thinks he's so much better?



Of these, though, probably Al Franken.

Kaine is less of a corporate shill/DINO and marginally better on the stump.  Kaine is the pretty obvious pick strategically.

If Warren is off the table (idk why Hillary would ever pick someone so potentially antagonistic to her admin though Liz would be a big asset during the campaign phase), Kaine is okay.

 Someone like Brown or franken would be better but I'm starting to feel that you shouldn't risk too much in terms of Senate calculus with this pick - like sabato says, just pick someone safe and respectable and get it over with.

Franken doesn't endanger Senate calculus, Gov. Dayton would just appoint a Democrat to replace him.
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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2016, 03:55:22 AM »

Best: Becerra, Perez, Warren, Booker

Worst: Castro, Brown, Patrick, Warner


Also I seriously don't get the hype for Kaine. It's get why people believe Clinton could pick him, but the man is incredibly bland.
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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2016, 04:02:48 AM »

Also I seriously don't get the hype for Kaine. It's get why people believe Clinton could pick him, but the man is incredibly bland.
He's ideologically compatible, has executive/legislative experience, chaired the DNC, speaks Spanish and won two statewide elections in a purple state. He basically checks the most boxes. In an election against Trump, especially against an extremely abrasive ticket like Trump/Christie or Trump/Gingrich, bland is sort of a good thing. He has the right resume to round out a "steady hands" ticket, which conventional wisdom says is her best defense against Trump.
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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2016, 04:08:27 AM »
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I don't know why people say Becerra. He's never held statewide office, probably not too well-known. A two-woman ticket is too risky, Bernie Sanders is really up and age and may not be in good physical shape to be VP for 4 (let alone Cool years, and some (like Warren, Booker, and Brown) would cost Democrats a Senate seat. I'm guessing she'll pick Kaine, who would be her best bet.

I've never considered being well-known to be a very important qualifier for VP. Anyone picked to be VP becomes a household name within the week anyway, and it's not like a lot of Americans know who Tim Kaine or Sherrod Brown are outside of voters in their home states and heavily politically-aware people (who by and large already know who they're voting for).

Also I seriously don't get the hype for Kaine. It's get why people believe Clinton could pick him, but the man is incredibly bland.
He's ideologically compatible, has executive/legislative experience, chaired the DNC, speaks Spanish and won two statewide elections in a purple state. He basically checks the most boxes. In an election against Trump, especially against an extremely abrasive ticket like Trump/Christie or Trump/Gingrich, bland is sort of a good thing. He has the right resume to round out a "steady hands" ticket, which conventional wisdom says is her best defense against Trump.

Fair enough. But personally I believe Clinton's biggest obstacle won't be attracting independents, but voter enthusiasm. Elizabeth Warren inspires more enthusiasm among Democrats than almost any politician I've seen (I honestly believe that Warren could win a one-on-one primary with Clinton), and unlike Bernie she hasn't spent the last half a year locked in an passive-aggressive battle with Hillary.
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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2016, 04:11:16 AM »

Castro seems to be the most overrated option in general, but on this board it's Kaine.
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