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Seriously?
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« Reply #472 on: September 30, 2016, 05:47:02 AM » |
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Why did Seriously? come back this year? Wasn't he embarrassed enough in 2012?
Obnoxious much? What are you doing here after 2014? People are permitted to interpret data differently. I am growing tired of how a bunch of obnoxious brownshirts you red avatars are because I don't agree with you and your crooked candidate and your narratives, which are not based in reality. 70% of you red hacks had Hillary up 10 and the election over in August. And who was the one saying it would be close? Yes. This "embarrassed" blue avatar. Who was right? I rest my case.
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afleitch
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« Reply #473 on: September 30, 2016, 06:16:12 AM » |
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Why did Seriously? come back this year? Wasn't he embarrassed enough in 2012?
Obnoxious much? What are you doing here after 2014?
People are permitted to interpret data differently. I am growing tired of how a bunch of obnoxious brownshirts you red avatars are because I don't agree with you and your crooked candidate and your narratives, which are not based in reality.
70% of you red hacks had Hillary up 10 and the election over in August. And who was the one saying it would be close? Yes. This "embarrassed" blue avatar. Who was right?
I rest my case.
Then stop pretending you objectively understand polling. Obama's internal polling data never had him behind on the national vote throughout the whole campaign. Neither did the Pollster polling average for that matter (in part because of how it vetted the polls going into the model) At this stage in 2012, Obama had a 2.8 lead. This was at the time of the first debate poll dive and his lead fell. Pollster also didn't show an Obama recovery after the debates; more of a flatline and then a recovery in the final few days. Obama's internal polling found the same thing, but at a higher baseline; dipping to 52% after the first debate and not really moving. So far Clinton has also always been ahead with Pollster and currently has a 4.5 lead. It's a 3.3 lead on the multiple candidates tracker too. She is doing better than Obama in terms of her national lead at this stage of the campaignIt may well be close, if the end result is close. But 2012 was considered a close race until after the election it was accepted it was never a close race at all.
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Seriously?
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« Reply #474 on: September 30, 2016, 06:34:41 AM » |
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« Edited: September 30, 2016, 07:04:20 AM by Seriously? »
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Why did Seriously? come back this year? Wasn't he embarrassed enough in 2012?
Obnoxious much? What are you doing here after 2014?
People are permitted to interpret data differently. I am growing tired of how a bunch of obnoxious brownshirts you red avatars are because I don't agree with you and your crooked candidate and your narratives, which are not based in reality.
70% of you red hacks had Hillary up 10 and the election over in August. And who was the one saying it would be close? Yes. This "embarrassed" blue avatar. Who was right?
I rest my case.
Then stop pretending you objectively understand polling.
Obama's internal polling data never had him behind on the national vote throughout the whole campaign. Neither did the Pollster polling average for that matter (in part because of how it vetted the polls going into the model) At this stage in 2012, Obama had a 2.8 lead. This was at the time of the first debate poll dive and his lead fell. Pollster also didn't show an Obama recovery after the debates; more of a flatline and then a recovery in the final few days. Obama's internal polling found the same thing, but at a higher baseline; dipping to 52% after the first debate and not really moving.
So far Clinton has also always been ahead with Pollster and currently has a 4.5 lead. It's a 3.3 lead on the multiple candidates tracker too. She is doing better than Obama in terms of her national lead at this stage of the campaign
It may well be close, if the end result is close. But 2012 was considered a close race until after the election it was accepted it was never a close race at all.
I understand polling just fine. I do not subscribe to the pollster theory though. Fivethirtyeight or RCP, not a mouthpiece of the left. You hacks just have your panties in a wad because I sarcastically stated that there was a Trump bounce here, just like you do with every pro-Hillary poll that comes out. It's comical how vitriolic the response was.
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