There's actually some pretty astonishing results beyond the "omfg Trump won"
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« Reply #50 on: November 09, 2016, 11:17:11 PM »

If Hillary wins the popular vote, I will consider her the winner of the election, as more people voted for her than Trump.

You matter.

Not my President.
He is now. Say it with me PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD THE PUSSYGRABBER.

Been saying it for the last 24 hours. President-elect Don T Pussygrabber.

Fixed yours for you, btw.
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« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2016, 11:29:32 PM »

So was Trump's modest Texas margin really due to any demographic trends or just to a sizable number of NeverTrumpers (i.e. suburban, educated, and fiscally/economically conservative)?
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« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2016, 11:30:57 PM »

California's vote is down about 4 million from 4 years ago.

Yes, our vote totals crash about 4 million every Presidential election until they finish counting them.

Politico says 100% reporting. Right now not counting write-in votes they have 8.92 million votes recorded. In 2012, they had 13.05 million votes.

In the last election they didn't count my vote for about a month.
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« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2016, 11:36:04 PM »

California's vote is down about 4 million from 4 years ago.

Yes, our vote totals crash about 4 million every Presidential election until they finish counting them.

Politico says 100% reporting. Right now not counting write-in votes they have 8.92 million votes recorded. In 2012, they had 13.05 million votes.

In the last election they didn't count my vote for about a month.

Sounds like grounds to fire the Secretary of State for incompetence.

That's a lot of my problem with having national popular vote. Right now, we internalize states' ineptitude to that state. If California are sh**tty at their job of counting votes, keeping an accurate electoral roll, it only affects Californians. I think it was longtime Democratic strategist Pat Caudill that once said during election coverage "in Minnesota, if they say you won by one vote, you won by one vote": they do their job incredibly well running and maintaining an election. That's not close to true for a lot of states, and everyone should be required to become like Minnesota, don't give a damn if you have 15 million registered voters.
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« Reply #54 on: November 09, 2016, 11:39:21 PM »

So was Trump's modest Texas margin really due to any demographic trends or just to a sizable number of NeverTrumpers (i.e. suburban, educated, and fiscally/economically conservative)?

A mix of both, but if we look at county level returns, it appears that many Texan Latinos that traditionally voted Republican voted Democrat, combined with increased registration and turnout levels in heavily Latino counties....

If the shift was more #NeverTrumpers we would have seen bigger swings in the Anglo suburbs of Houston (Montgomery County), DFW (Denton & Collins), Austin (Williamson), etc....

Difficult to totally digest yet, but I think Harris and Bexar tell the story.....

Travis (Austin) might be the exception in terms of a huge swing of college educated Anglos, but the jury is still out, considering that there is a large Latino presence that has been historically second class citizens to the point last time I was out there, a story was in the local weekly rag about how city council districts and housing discrimination created certain districts of the city where "Latinos" and "Blacks" were basically forced to live in as a result of housing discrimination, and the political system was still designed to keep Black and Brown on certain sides of Town...
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« Reply #55 on: November 09, 2016, 11:39:38 PM »

So was Trump's modest Texas margin really due to any demographic trends or just to a sizable number of NeverTrumpers (i.e. suburban, educated, and fiscally/economically conservative)?

imho, both.

texas is still the best republican state regarding embracing latinos.

arizona on the other hand doubled down on "those people never vote" and got saved by the red wave.
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« Reply #56 on: November 09, 2016, 11:51:12 PM »

So was Trump's modest Texas margin really due to any demographic trends or just to a sizable number of NeverTrumpers (i.e. suburban, educated, and fiscally/economically conservative)?

A mix of both, but if we look at county level returns, it appears that many Texan Latinos that traditionally voted Republican voted Democrat, combined with increased registration and turnout levels in heavily Latino counties....

Yet the Rio Grande Valley swung fairly heavily toward Trump.
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« Reply #57 on: November 10, 2016, 12:04:10 AM »

3rd party votes by states, a selection of the highest. All of these don't count write-in votes.

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So it looks like Bernie Sanders took 3rd in Vermont, Evan McMullin took 3rd in Utah and Idaho, and Gary Johnson took 3rd everywhere else. No 3rds for Jill Stein.
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