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« Reply #225 on: January 31, 2017, 03:44:39 PM »

Obvious grain of salt, but the Rogue POTUS Staff account says Trump has finalized on Gorsuch.

Good, even though I still have some doubts that he won't turn into another Souter.

You said the same about Hardiman?
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« Reply #226 on: January 31, 2017, 03:54:59 PM »

Robert Barnes ‏@scotusreporter  3m3 minutes ago
via @edatpost Trump invited senior Dem senators to WH tonight to meet his Supreme Court pick, but they declined the invite.

Pathetic.

They're just extending Trump's pick the same courtesies that Republicans extended to Merrick Garland.

Great, enjoy this taking up the next two years and everything else being handled by executive order! Especially the big, beautiful wall!

I have a feeling the federal judiciary is perfectly capable of telling Trump where his executive orders can go. And no executive order can magic up the money to pay for Trump's stupid wall.

Anyways, can you give me one good reason why Democrats shouldn't make Trump fight tooth and nail to eek out a Supreme Court confirmation after what Republicans did to Obama's pick?
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« Reply #227 on: January 31, 2017, 04:05:56 PM »

Manchin says he will meet with Trump's SCOTUS pick.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2613513/
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« Reply #228 on: January 31, 2017, 04:08:04 PM »

Just remove the filibuster immediately without even trying, Mitch. This will be a waste of time otherwise. Democrats' votes shouldn't matter on this.
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« Reply #229 on: January 31, 2017, 04:10:41 PM »

Just remove the filibuster immediately without even trying, Mitch. This will be a waste of time otherwise. Democrats' votes shouldn't matter on this.
We should dissolve Congress!
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« Reply #230 on: January 31, 2017, 04:11:53 PM »

I hope McConnell gets stripped of his leadership if he doesn't have the stones to remove the filibuster on sc nominees. I would hope there are enough republican senators to have a vote of no confidence on McConnell
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« Reply #231 on: January 31, 2017, 04:15:26 PM »

I hope McConnell gets stripped of his leadership if he doesn't have the stones to remove the filibuster on sc nominees. I would hope there are enough republican senators to have a vote of no confidence on McConnell
Don't count on it.
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« Reply #232 on: January 31, 2017, 04:17:20 PM »
« Edited: January 31, 2017, 04:19:11 PM by Maxwell »

republicans don't care about anything but power, part 1738

on a purely filibuster issue, I'd be fine with removing the non-talking filibuster and forcing people to do the talking filibuster any time they want to filibuster.
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« Reply #233 on: January 31, 2017, 04:19:17 PM »

Just remove the filibuster immediately without even trying, Mitch. This will be a waste of time otherwise. Democrats' votes shouldn't matter on this.

That is not right either and Republicans could well be in the minority eventually.

The GOP did not win the popular vote for Presidency and Obama should have picked the replacement for Scalia's seat not Trump.

But needless to say I do not think this would be worth filibustering because it is essentially replacing a conservative with a conservative. A fight to replace Gingsburg would be more worth it.

Are you just saying who ever is in the minority party should just have no voice?
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« Reply #234 on: January 31, 2017, 04:22:53 PM »

Just remove the filibuster immediately without even trying, Mitch. This will be a waste of time otherwise. Democrats' votes shouldn't matter on this.

That is not right either and Republicans could well be in the minority eventually.

The GOP did not win the popular vote for Presidency and Obama should have picked the replacement for Scalia's seat not Trump.

But needless to say I do not think this would be worth filibustering because it is essentially replacing a conservative with a conservative. A fight to replace Gingsburg would be more worth it.

Are you just saying who ever is in the minority party should just have no voice?
A Kennedy vacancy would be worth it!
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« Reply #235 on: January 31, 2017, 04:27:25 PM »

The Senate was designed to be insulated from public opinion and not stomp on the minority!

The House was designed to be be the people's house.

I normally do not care in the year 2017 what some people in the late 1770s thought but I agree with them on the two above statements.

Preserve the filibuster but obviously do not abuse it.

And House districts should be required to make geographic sense and correspond to population requirements. That is it.
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« Reply #236 on: January 31, 2017, 04:30:22 PM »

Oh and let me add this: I do not think if the founding fathers were alive today that they would design the Senate the way they did. Especially with the extremely dramatic population differences between the states now. I would think they design a senate in which every state gets a senator plus as many Senate districts as there are states. So half the Senate would represent the states and the other half would represent roughly population districts that could cross state lines.

The Senate should be designed for actual deliberation. Not stomping out the minority who are only the minority due to the stagger nature of the body.
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« Reply #237 on: January 31, 2017, 04:32:04 PM »

Just remove the filibuster immediately without even trying, Mitch. This will be a waste of time otherwise. Democrats' votes shouldn't matter on this.

That is not right either and Republicans could well be in the minority eventually.

The GOP did not win the popular vote for Presidency and Obama should have picked the replacement for Scalia's seat not Trump.

But needless to say I do not think this would be worth filibustering because it is essentially replacing a conservative with a conservative. A fight to replace Gingsburg would be more worth it.

Are you just saying who ever is in the minority party should just have no voice?

A fight to replace Ginsburg would go the exact same way as this fight. They'd just deploy the nuclear option and approve Trump's nominee with a simple majority. Might as well fight them now.

If not, we're just ceding ground to the Republicans and delaying the inevitable.
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« Reply #238 on: January 31, 2017, 04:32:44 PM »

During the confirmation hearings, will Republicans argue that Trump's nominee should be confirmed because the American people "decided" on him in the last presidential election? That's what they were arguing when they tried to block Garland.

If so, LOL.
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« Reply #239 on: January 31, 2017, 04:34:14 PM »
« Edited: January 31, 2017, 04:41:33 PM by Jimmie »

The thing about Supreme Court nominations is that it is impossible to know what issues and how justices will rule 20 years down the road.

Even Roberts has taken observers by surprise.

Obvious grain of salt, but the Rogue POTUS Staff account says Trump has finalized on Gorsuch.

Good, even though I still have some doubts that he won't turn into another Souter.

well yea I sorta agree.
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« Reply #240 on: January 31, 2017, 04:39:14 PM »

During the confirmation hearings, will Republicans argue that Trump's nominee should be confirmed because the American people "decided" on him in the last presidential election? That's what they were arguing when they tried to block Garland.

If so, LOL.

Of course that will be their argument.

Donald Trump was chosen by the American people to lead this country, and Democrats should respect his right to appoint a Supreme Court Justice.

Democrats are being unreasonable for filibustering this completely qualified candidate for SCOTUS, and are setting a dangerous precedent.

Sound familiar?  
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« Reply #241 on: January 31, 2017, 04:46:53 PM »

Lol wtf

Jeff Zeleny @jeffzeleny
White House is setting up Supreme Court announcement as a prime-time contest: @JusticeGorsuch and @JusticeHardiman identical Twitter pages.
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« Reply #242 on: January 31, 2017, 04:50:38 PM »

Lol wtf

Jeff Zeleny @jeffzeleny
White House is setting up Supreme Court announcement as a prime-time contest: @JusticeGorsuch and @JusticeHardiman identical Twitter pages.

You haven't noticed the countdown ticker on CNN?
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« Reply #243 on: January 31, 2017, 04:53:59 PM »

I love the cinematic drama Trump has made of this announcement; he's brought both top contenders to DC, and assuming he picks one of them, will have kept us in suspense and eager anticipation until the very start of what traditionally has been a relatively mundane affair.
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« Reply #244 on: January 31, 2017, 04:57:42 PM »

Republicans never filibustered a nominee (and at least Sotomajor would habe been worth it!) so why keeping it? Eventually, they always cave if they are in the minority...
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« Reply #245 on: January 31, 2017, 05:05:50 PM »

Republicans never filibustered a nominee (and at least Sotomajor would habe been worth it!) so why keeping it? Eventually, they always cave if they are in the minority...

For the record, the filibuster needs to go and be replaced with a talking filibuster. The Senate has a lot of things that slow down legislation already but essentially the Senate wouldn't become the House if the filibuster went. It has a lot of other things that make it still a "slowing down" gear of government.
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« Reply #246 on: January 31, 2017, 05:07:57 PM »

Watch it be Gorsuch
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« Reply #247 on: January 31, 2017, 05:18:44 PM »


Get your bets in now.
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« Reply #248 on: January 31, 2017, 05:22:32 PM »

It seems like it will be Gorsuch.  I just looked at the prediction market, and it's overwhelming for Gorsuch.
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« Reply #249 on: January 31, 2017, 06:45:05 PM »

http://ijr.com/2017/01/790802-exclusive-president-trumps-supreme-court-pick-confirmed/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign=ods&utm_term=ijamerica&utm_content=politics
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