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« on: April 29, 2017, 01:37:26 PM »

I'll do a more detailed analysis riding by riding later in the campaign but 506 is right. The Liberals will probably be reelected. Of course I predicted an NDP minority last time and look how that turned out.

There have been two issues that have upset the urban left: cutting the film tax credit and a labour dispute with the teachers' union. Neither have failed to make a big dent in McNeil's support, but the NDP will likely make gains in Halifax, where they were nearly wiped out last time based on those issues.
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2017, 01:39:15 PM »

Oh, there is one more  poll out which shows a somewhat tighter race

Liberal: 43%
Tory: 27%
NDP: 24%

So we are starting with the 2013 end result more or less.
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2017, 07:59:20 AM »

Tories had their campaign launch yesterday. Still no election call.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2017, 05:10:37 AM »

On the first full day of campaigning, the Tories and Liberals offer competing infrastructure plans and the NDP promises to run deficits to expand healthcare.
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2017, 08:18:44 PM »

Disgraced former Liberal MLA Andrew Younger has ended his independent campaign. Disappointing, it would have made for an interesting race.
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2017, 03:28:19 PM »

Mainstreet: http://www.mainstreetresearch.ca/liberals-lead-campaign-begins/

Province wide Decided/Leaning:
Liberal - 42%
PC - 29%
NDP - 25%

HRM
Liberal - 39%
NDP - 31%
PC - 29%


The Halifax numbers are a huge regional trend if true. The last time the Tories did so well, they were in government, not a distant second.
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2017, 06:08:30 AM »

Mainstreet: http://www.mainstreetresearch.ca/liberals-lead-campaign-begins/

Province wide Decided/Leaning:
Liberal - 42%
PC - 29%
NDP - 25%

HRM
Liberal - 39%
NDP - 31%
PC - 29%


The Halifax numbers are a huge regional trend if true. The last time the Tories did so well, they were in government, not a distant second.

Halifax is kind of a quirky area politically, right?

A little bit, but this is still really unusual. The city's politics have been 'liberal v socialist' for quite some time.

Mainstreet: http://www.mainstreetresearch.ca/liberals-lead-campaign-begins/

Province wide Decided/Leaning:
Liberal - 42%
PC - 29%
NDP - 25%

HRM
Liberal - 39%
NDP - 31%
PC - 29%


The Halifax numbers are a huge regional trend if true. The last time the Tories did so well, they were in government, not a distant second.

Keep in mind though Premier McNeil is from the Annapolis Valley Region (6 ridings, with the Liberals holding five) and many people in the Nova Scotia regions seem to like voting for a party with a leader from their region.  I would  remind you that in the normally Liberal Cape Breton when Rodney MacDonald was P.C Leader in 2006 and went on to win a minority government, the P.Cs gained two seats in the Cape Breton region (of the then 9 ridings. That only gave the P.Cs four ridings on Cape Breton, but historically, Cape Breton had been a wasteland for them, in 1999, for instance, Rodney MacDonald was the only P.C elected on Cape Breton.)

Presently the Liberals hold 5 of 8 Cape Breton ridings, and if they hold the 5 seats in Annapolis, they should be well on their way to getting reelected with a majority government.

Definitely true, but the composition of said majority will be unexpected. That poll represents  a ~10-12 % swing from Liberal to Tory in Halifax, with the NDP holding static. With the overall polls holding steady, it looks like the Liberals will lose their near sweep in Halifax while gaining seats in the country. Of course that is assuming the polls are true.
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2017, 08:16:37 AM »

Now that I have time, here is my brief guide to Nova Scotia politics and this election in particular:

Introduction
Nova Scotia, like the rest of Atlantic Canada is a poor, relatively rural place. However, this isn't quite as extreme as the rest of the east coast due to Halifax (a prosperous, and fairly bobo city similar to Victoria) and industrial Cape Breton (a depressed industrial area similar to Windsor). Racially the province is overwhelmingly white and Anglophone, with small minorities of Acadians (east coast Francophones with a distinct dialect from Quebecois), blacks  First Nations and Lebanese Arabs (about 1-3% each). The province is somewhat more religious than the rest of the country, as one would expect from an older, rural region. Of particular note are the high number of Baptists in the rural mainland of the province, who help shore up Tory strength in the area.

Nova Scotia politics are defined by their overwhelming centrism. People joke that the Tories are centre-centre-right, the NDP are centre-centre-left and the Liberals are centre-centre-centre. Ridings are small and the province is relatively rural, so tribalism and personal votes play a much bigger role than they do elsewhere. Political dynasties are common. Two husband/wife duos represent similar areas federaly and provincially (The Regans represent Halifax West and Bedford, while the Eykings represent Sydney-Victoria and Victoria-The Lakes), and two sons of former Premiers currently hold office.

The Liberals are often considered the most conservative party in the province. The Tories are extremely red, and their governments are often big spenders to support rural roads, healthcare and education, while the Liberals tend to represent upper income urban areas and have more austere politics to match. The NDP are more centrist than NDP's in the rest of Canada, although they have tacked left this election.

Here is a map of Nova Scotia's electoral districts for reference. H/T Earl.


The Liberal base is found in the Annapolis Valley (three three Kings ridings, Annapolis, and Clare-Digby), upper income suburbs of Halifax, and rural Cape Breton. The Tories find their strength in the rural mainland of Nova Scotia, particularly the North Shore (Pictou, Cumberland and Colchester counties). The NDP does best in the urban parts of Halifax, poor suburbs of Halifax and urban Cape Breton.

Leaders/Parties
Stephen McNeil, a blue liberal representing Annapolis, is seeking a second term in office. His government defeated an historic one term NDP government which had swept out a three term Tory government while the Liberals were in disarray. McNeil's government has been quite right wing by Nova Scotia standards (but still centrist for the rest of Canada), and has included budget cuts, small tax hikes, and  labour strife.

The Tories are led by Jamie Baillie. Baillie is a Chartered Accountant and former CEO of a credit union who was acclaimed to the leadership after the last Tory government went down in a landslide. Baillie ran slightly to the left of the Liberals in 2013, and is doubling down on this effort in 2017, slamming the government for 'reckless cuts'. A friend of mine from Ontario joked that he thought he went to an NDP rally by accident after hearing a Baillie speech. Baillie is from Halifax but represents a safe rural seat, Cumberland South.

The NDP are led by Gary Burrill, a former United Church minister and defeated backbencher MLA for Colchester-Musquodoboit Valley. Burrill won a shocking victory over more centrist candidates in the NDP leadership convention last year. This was considered a rebuke of the previous NDP leader, Darrell Dexter, which was accused by many progressives of ceding too much ground to the right and centre. Burrill has tacked the party to the left and is promising to raise the minimum wage to $15 in three years. Although Burrill has elected experience, his old seat would be a very up hill fight, so he is running in Halifax Chebucto, a fairly left wing seat represented by a one term Liberal MLA.

There are also two fringe parties running:

The Greens are a true fringe party in Nova Scotia, running only 16 candidates in 2013 and garnering less than 1% of the vote. The Greens are somewhat better organized this time, but are not expected to run a full slate. The other fringe party is the Atlantica Party, a libertarian party advocating Maritime union (merging Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island together into one province). The Atlantica Party will probably run around half a dozen candidates this election

Issues
Film tax credit: Halifax has a fairly big film and television production industry, which was subsidized by a significant tax credit. McNeil cut the tax credit back significantly, which resulted in a lot of blowback from progressives in Halifax. Both the Tories and the NDP are promising to restore the credit. McNeil nearly swept Halifax last election, and this move is likely to cost him some of his more progressive seats in the city.

Teachers unions: Nova Scotia experienced significant labour strife in 2016 due to negotiations with the teachers union. This was in part due to the union's leadership not understanding their members' opinions. The union membership voted down three (!) agreements that the leadership ratified before the McNeil government imposed a contract on the union, via Bill 75. The Tories and NDP are both promising to repeal Bill 75 and negotiate a new contract with the teachers union. The NDP have been campaigning especially hard on this issue.

Roads: Much of rural Nova Scotia has two lane, undivided highways, which can be quite dangerous in the winter. The Tories and Liberals are offering dueling plans to put in divided highways in more rural regions. This is a popular measure, but is criticized in some circles due to the government facing difficulties maintaining its existing infrastructure.

Taxes/spending The Liberals have presented balanced budgets the past couple of years, largely due to austerity. The taps have turned back on somewhat, with the Liberals raising the personal exemption (amount one can earn before paying income tax) by a few thousand. The NDP is running deficits in order to finance more healthcare spending, particularly nursing home beds, which aging provinces like Nova Scotia are struggling to provide. Burrill like to claim that McNeil has 'traded a budget deficit for a healthcare deficit'. The Tories are also calling for more spending but still say they will balance the budget.

Conclusion
The election is set to be status quo thus far. The polls within a couple of points of the 2013 result. I expect there to be some regional change. The film tax credit has upset many progressives in Halifax, and I expect both the NDP and Tories to make gains there. With no former rural NDP MLA's running, their personal votes will disappear. and will be picked up by the Liberals and Tories. I expect this election will look more like 'typical' Nova Scotia results than 2009 and 2013, with NDP weakness in rural areas and strength in the city. There are only 51 ridings, so I will be putting up brief individual riding profiles in the coming days.

On a more personal note, this is something of a historic election for me... For the first time ever, I'm an undecided voter! I'll be following the campaign a bit more than usual.

Any questions, comments? I'm always happy to chat about Maritime politics.
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2017, 05:21:30 AM »


It's not. People vote for the candidate in Cape Breton more than the party.

Exactly. People were upset at the NDP for budget cuts and Geoff MacLellan had a YUGE personal vote. Another example: People hate the Tories in Cape Breton... and the Tories have had 3-4 four MLA's on the island for the past decade. My Nana doesn't vote Tory, she votes for Alfie MacLeod.
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2017, 05:58:03 AM »

Riding profile time

Annapolis Valley: The Annapolis Valley is a prosperous rural region, home to several small farming communities, a couple small towns, and a university. It is the only part of rural Nova Scotia that has a stable or even increasing population, thanks to its relative prosperity.

Annapolis
This rural farming county has historically voted Liberal and is currently held by Liberal leader Stephen McNeil. McNeil will win some ridiculous majority this time
Safe Liberal

Clare-Digby

This riding was created by merging two safe Liberal seats (Clare & Digby-Annapolis). It is a rural fishing area, has a high concentration of Acadians and is home to Nova Scotia's only French university. The Liberals ran Anglophone Gordon Wilson last time who still managed to win a sizeable victory over the Tories. Now that Wilson has an incumbent boost, he should win a sizeable majority like Annapolis or Kings West.
Safe Liberal

Hants West
This riding is mostly rural farmland with some small towns. It was represented by Tory Ron Russell for nearly 30 years. Current MLA Chuck Porter left the Tory caucus after a spat with Jamie Baillie and eventually joined the Liberals. There are a lot of tribal Tories in this riding, but Porter has defeated strong challenges before. I expect him to retain his seat.
Lean Liberal

Kings North
Kings North is a largely rural riding and is home to over half of the provinces farms. The Tories held it from 1978-2009 when the NDP won it. The Tories won it again in 2013, but only in a very close three way race. Local MLA John Lohr has had a chance to put down roots and the one term NDP MLA isn't running again, but the Liberals could still pick this one up.
Lean Tory

Kings South
Kings South is centred around Acadia University which has about 4000 students and employs a large part of the riding. With the large student contingent, the NDP have been able to punch above their weight for a rural riding and picked it up in 2009. However the Liberals picked up this seat in 2013 and I expect them to retain it now that they have an incumbent MLA.
Lean Liberal

Kings West
Home to CFB Greenwood, this riding is a mixture of soldiers and farmers. Popular Liberal MLA Leo Glavine usually wins with over 70% of the vote and is set to do so again.
Safe Liberal
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2017, 05:28:29 AM »

More riding profiles

South Shore
The south shore is a rural region with a few small towns. It has been hit hard over the past couple of years due to the closure of several pulp and paper mills. Other major industries include fishing and a large  Michelin tire manufacturing facility in Lunenburg county. The South Shore is also known for it's German ancestry as it was settled by "foreign Protestants" thanks to a British government eager to populate the area quickly. There is also an Acadian area at the far souther part of the region.


Argyle-Barrington
This rural fishing area has a large Acadian population. Acadian Tory Chris D"Entremont has represented this riding since 2003. He won comfrotably and should repeat the feat again.
Safe Tory

Chester-St.Margaret's
This riding is a mixture of rural fishing and touristy areas and the exurbs outside of Halifax. All 3 parties have a strong presence here and the vote was a close three way race in 2013. The riding is gradually drifting left as Haligonians increase their share of the population, but an increased Tory vote share is keeping them in the running.
Liberal-NDP-Tory tossup

Lunenburg
Unsurprisingly, Lunenburg is centred around the town of Lunenburg, home to the Bluenose and a large frozen food company. This riding also has strong Liberal roots, mostly electing Liberals before the Tories and NDP each one it in the 2000's. With no NDP incumbent, it should go Liberal, although the Tories are still in the mix here
Lean Liberal

Lunenburg West
A mixture of rural areas and the town of Bridgewater, a manufacturing hub. This riding has historically been a Liberal stronghold, but the PC's and NDP have held it in recent years. Now that the Liberals have an incumbent, I expect them to hold it.
Lean Liberal

Queens-Shelburne
This riding was formed by the merger of the old Queens and Shelburne ridings. Both of these ridings are rural and focused on primary industry (forestry & fishing respectively) and were historically held by the Tories, but the NDP  MLA Sterling Belliveau won it in 2013. Now that Belliveau has retired, the NDP personal vote should decline. Queens is an ancestral Tory area and Shelburne is mostly Liberal but has gone Tory before and is generally smaller than Queens. I expect the Tories to pick this one up.
Lean Tory

Yarmouth
This historically Liberal fishing community was won by Tory Richard Hurlburt in 2009. However Hurlburt resigned in the midst of an expense scandal and the Liberals won the ensuing by-election, and then racked up a ridiculous majority in the 2013 election. I expect no major changes here.
Safe Liberal
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2017, 05:30:19 AM »

New poll out from CRA

Liberal: 45%
Tory: 31%
NDP: 24%
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2017, 04:11:53 AM »

NDP promise free dental care up to 18

Liberals have the first candidate firing of the campaign, in Pictou East
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2017, 04:37:46 AM »

Fundy-North Shore
A mostly poor, rural, farming region, Fundy and the North Shore also feature some small towns and its far edges have begun turning into Halifax exurbs as suburbanites flee Halifax county's high property taxes. Historically its been a safe Tory region but it has shown quite a bit of diversity these past years.

Colchester-Musquodoboit Valley
This largely rural area is a mix of farmland and Halifax commutershed. It was historically a safe conservative seat before current NDP leader Gary Burrill defeated a popular Tory councillor in a massive swing in 2009. ( The Tories went from 64% to 29%). However the Tories won it back quite comfortably, and with Burrill running in Halifax they should retain it quite easily this time.
Safe Tory

Colchester North
This rural farming community was won in 2009 by Tory MLA Karen Casey who has since jumped ship to the Liberals. Casey is extremely popular and should carry the seat despite it's natural Tory lean.
Safe Liberal

Cumberland North
Yet another rural farming area. It was historically a safe Tory seat, but went NDP in 2009 after the Tory MLA was arrested for drunk driving and ran as an independent. The Liberals unexpectedly picked up the seat in 2013 when the Tories were supposed to cruise to victory without a split vote. While the Liberal MLA is now an incumbent, the Tories are doing well and this is a 'tribal seat', so I'm not quite willing to call it for the Liberals
Liberal-Tory tossup

Cumberland South
A rural farming area, this riding is also home to the province's main prison. It is a mixture of law and order prison guards and rural conservatives and is easily the safest Tory seat in the province. It is also represented by PC leader Jamie Baillie.
Safe Tory

Hants East

This riding is mostly rural commutershed outside of Halifax. The largest industry is the nearby Stanfield International Airport. A relatively poor riding, it was represented by Dipper John MacDonnell from 1998-2013, before a Liberal took him down in one of the biggest upsets of 2013. Without MacDonnell running, the Liberals ought to hold it.
Lean Liberal

Truro-Bible Hill-Millbrook-Salmon River
Yet another example of why boundary commissions suck at naming ridings. This riding is a carbon copy the old Truro-Bible Hill riding, only the name has been changed to include too small communities of about 500 people each. It centres around the small town of Truro, which acts as a hub for farmers around Bay of Fundy. It also contains Nova Scotia Agriculture College. This riding used to be almost perfect bellweather, but NDP candidate Lenore Zann managed to hold on to her seat in 2013, despite a Liberal landslide. There doesn't appear to be any major surge in the area, so I'm guessing she retains theseat
Lean NDP
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2017, 04:52:19 AM »

First TV ads of the campaign are out:

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Keep in mind that that last ad, slamming McNeil for cuts is a Tory ad. Oh Nova Scotia politics.
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2017, 04:18:53 PM »

NDP promises to raise top marginal tax rate to 57%!
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2017, 05:36:04 PM »

Another CRA poll out:

Liberal: 45%
Tory: 30%
NDP: 23%
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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2017, 04:06:45 AM »

Race is tightning

Liberal: 40%
Tory: 32%
NDP: 25%
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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2017, 05:11:12 AM »

Halifax was amalgamated in the 1990's but the old municipal boundaries make sense for my purposes.

Former City of Halifax

Clayton Park West
This upper middle class riding has the highest concentration of immigrants in the province. It is represented by Liberal deputy leader Diana Whalen who won the riding by a substantial margin in the last election. Whalen unexpectedly announced she wasn't running again due to health reasons. This is the sort of well off riding the Liberals do well in, but it has no tribal Liberal vote, so I' can't bring myself to call it safe. This race is also notable because both the Green and Atlantic Party leaders are running here.
Lean Liberal

Fairview-Clayton Park
Fairview is a working class community, while Clayton Park is more well off. This riding should lean NDP, but the Liberals won it quite comfortably last time. Incumbent MLA Patricia Arab is quite popular. Additionally, the NDP organization seems almost non-existent this time around, which is a huge difference from 2013. If the Liberals collapse or the NDP
Lean Liberal

Halifax Armdale
This riding is an almost perfectly even split of middle class comfort and lower class poverty. Liberal Lena Diab won last time and has been prominent as Justice Minister. The NDP haven't generated much momentum yet, I think Diab will win it again.
Lean Liberal

Halifax Chebucto
This leftish seat was represented by former NDP leader Alexa McDonough and prominent Dipper Howard Epstein before the Liberals picked it up in 2013. NDP leader Gary Burrill is running here and should have an affect on the race. Liberal MLA Joahchim Stroink has also been embroiled in scandal for attending a party with someone wearing blackface (it was a Dutch Christmas party). Reading campaign logs, it seems Burrill is spending too much time here for it to be safe for him, but given its NDP history and his prominence, I still think he picks it up.
Lean NDP

Halifax Citadel-Sable Island
This riding is extremely diverse. It contains Halifax's two largest universities, a large old money neighbourhood, the downtown as well as the iconic Halifax Citadel. It also contains Sable Island off the coast of Nova Scotia which is home to 5 people and several hundred ponies It has elected members of all 3 major parties in the last 20 years and will be hotly contested in the next election. Although the Liberals are in trouble in progressive parts of Halifax, this riding has a large anti-NDP bloc which shoudl help the incumbent Liberal MLA, Labi Kousoulis pull through.
Lean Liberal

Halifax Needham

Consists entirely of the North End neighbourhood (no one calls it Needham*). A mixture of working class homes and urban progressives in search of cheap rents, Needham is the platonic ideal of an NDP riding. NDP cabinent minister Maureen MacDonald almost lost the seat in 2013, but it was later comfortably retained in a 2015 by-election. Given how the Liberals have annoyed the Nova Scotia left, it should be quite safe this time, even though the new MLA isn't nearly as prominent as Maureen MacDonald.
Safe NDP

*Halifax riding names don't make a lot of sense. No one says they live in Chebucto or Needham Tongue
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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2017, 05:43:15 PM »

These are great, DC. Keep it up!

Of course, riding names are one of those nerdy things that interest me. The riding has been called "Halifax Needham" (Chebucto too) since the 60s, so I guess they'll never bother to change it.

Sadly you are right. If they were going to go with what people actually called the neighbourhoods in each riding, they would be Halifax North End, Halifax West End and Halifax South End. I get why Halifax West or South wouldn't work since they city and the county shared the same name before amalgamation, but everyone knows what 'North End' means around here. Boundary commissions are annoying sometimes.

Halifax Citadel-Sable Island is ridiculously named, since there isn't even a polling booth on Sable Island (and in fact the 2016 census shows a population of 0, going to update this on Wikipedia).

0 people live on Sable Island now? That's too bad. There's a neat little tradition that the first results released are the poll on Sable Island. Every provincial election Halifax Citadel would show the NDP up 2-1 or something for about ten minutes before the rest of the results came in.

Reminds me of the new name of the Leeds-Grenville riding which was named "Leeds-Grenville-Rideau Lakes and the Thousand Islands" for tourist reasons. *throws up*

Our boundary commission got into that crap too. Truro-Bible Hill is now Truro-Bible Hill-Millbrook-Salmon River. The last two communities might have a thousand people between them.
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« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2017, 06:18:30 PM »


Already changed too!

Liberal: 37% (-3)
Tory: 32% (-)
NDP: 27% (+2)


Two questions:

When is the leaders debate?
At what point does the popular vote spread start to make a minority government a serious possibility?

The leaders debate will be May 18

You're second question is a bit tougher to answer because Nova Scotia politics are so personality based. Rodney MacDonald famously increased his vote %, maintained his lead and lost seats, thanks to his rural MLA's racking up massive majorities while other candidates lost. That said, if I eyeball the 2013 results, the Liberals seem to have the most concentrated electorate. I really doubt the Liberals will win a majority with less than 40% of the vote.


Halifax Armdale
This riding is an almost perfectly even split of middle class comfort and lower class poverty. Liberal Lena Diab won last time and has been prominent as Justice Minister. The NDP haven't generated much momentum yet, I think Diab will win it again.
Lean Liberal


Don't be too sure about that. The NDP is running David Wheeler the former Dean of Management at Dalhousie who is widely regarded as a "star candidate"...also if polls now have the NDP at 27% province-wide, i suspect that 27% is much more concentrated in halifax than in the 2013 election and if that is the case this seat would have to be considered relatively "low hanging fruit" for a resurgent NDP


If we look at the last Mainstreet:

HRM
Liberal - 39%
NDP - 31%
PC - 29%

That was with the NDP at 25% province wide, Is it more likely that the NDP is gaining ground in HRM or elsewhere? at 27% The margin with the Liberals would be smaller (if not tied) in HRm and/or they are above 20% in the rest of the province.

Lil Tommy: Definitely Halifax. The NDP don't have many rural incumbents this time, so they ought to tank in most of rural Nova Scotia except for a couple seats they have a history in (e.g. Pictou County). Plus the sort of stuff the Liberals are taking heat on are things that upset urban/suburban progressives.

DL:Yes and no. I dispute that Wheeler is a star candidate. He left Dal in 2009, and was most recently president of Cape Breton University, and left under some contentious circumstances. Besides the NDP vote in Armdale is more broke than woke. I have a pretty high standard for a 'star' and Wheeler has enough marks against him to be one.

That said he's still an above average candidate, and given the regional trends at play, I think it's fair to call it a tossup.
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« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2017, 06:41:12 PM »

On another note, the nomination deadline has passed. The Atlantica Party has surpassed expectations and nominated 15 candidates. The Greens are running 32 candidates, an improvement from 2013, but still nowhere near the full slates they used to run. The big three all have full slates. Since we all love maps, here is a map of fringe candidacies:

Green is Green only
Blue is Atlantica only
Purple is both Green and Atlantica
Grey is no fringe parties



Things to note in no particular order:
1) Greens are 'real party' in Halifax and the Annapolis Valley, but need to up their game elsewhere
2) Cape Breton is starved for fringe folks.
3) Cumberland County must have some little group of free market acolytes I don't know about.
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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2017, 03:40:36 PM »

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They're definitely picking up seats in Halifax on those numbers, but they're hampered by a lack of strength outside of it. I'd guess they're hovering around breakthrough level

They should win Halifax Chebucto, Sackville-Beaverbank, both of the Cole Harbour seats and be competitive in several other Halifax area seats on those numbers. On the other hand, might lose Queens-Shelburne, and/or Chester-St. Margaret's to the resurgent Tories, and I wouldn't put the two Cape Breton seats they lost in by-elections I'm the NDP column yet.

Starting to look like the 1998 election now in terms of polling, except with the Liberals doing better and the NDP doing worse. But I suspect the vote patterns will be similar, if everything holds.

Agreed. The Liberals have run a very complacent campaign, while the Tories and NDP have hit the ground running. They aren't competing with the other parties on spending and they aren't playing the fiscal responsibility card either. It's all rather muddled.

I agree with your assessment with a few minor quibbles. (I.e. there's no way the Liberals will match their 1998 result in Cape Breton, but they'll probably do a bit better in the rural mainland.)
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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2017, 05:16:42 AM »
« Edited: May 13, 2017, 05:22:08 AM by DC Al Fine »

Daily poll is out:

Liberal: 41% (+3)
Tory: 29% (-2)
NDP: 27% (1)

Just a reminder, CRA is doing a rolling three day poll, so an unusually good or bad result for a party can take a little while to work through the system.
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DC Al Fine
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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2017, 06:46:58 AM »

The Tories release their er... optimistic platform i.e. large spending, balanced budget, no new taxes.

NDP promises free community college tuition and a ten percent reduction in university tuition (also costed optimistically)
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